[IRPCoalition] [DC] Join us on the Statement from DC Core Internet Values

[Timothy Holborn]

My belief is that the non-western world is presently better equipped to
sort the problems out, as they elevate from a consumer electronics
manufacturing capability to also support software development.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1200228.shtml

I am also concerned that the US may prefer broadened warfare rather than
acknowledging the impacts "choice of law (somewhere) California" has on the
capacity for persons worldwide to see lawful remedy for wrongs causing
injury.

It appears broader leadership is required.

Timo.

On Sat., 19 Sep. 2020, 12:24 am Nuno M. Garcia, <ngarcia at ngarcia.net> wrote:

> Timothy, the link you sent was very interesting.
> The question you pose afterwards, on the impact of AI in the way we
> develop the Web, I think, is a new category of challenges we need to
> address sooner rather than later.
>
> And to be honest, we have our hands full trying to keep up with government
> and unethical-operators to address the dangers of having the decisions made
> by AIs...
>
> WR, stay safe,
> Nuno
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:03, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is 'sense-making' about reality, the ability to comprehend the
>> distinction about reality vs. 'fantasy' a human right?
>>
>> it appears AI & WWW is forming new challenges that may be 'boiled
>> down' into these sorts of terms...
>>
>> ie: mass toilet-paper sales earlier in the year. (or much worse).
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 00:36, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > FYI: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1200228.shtml
>> >
>> > On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 21:45, Nuno M. Garcia <ngarcia at di.ubi.pt> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Guys, hi
>> > >
>> > > I edited the text, I hope my changes are interesting to you all.
>> > >
>> > > There are a lot of things to discuss regarding Core Internet Values,
>> and I have a paper on that (in Portuguese, no translation to English yet),
>> but among the problems, there is also data throttling (that I somehow
>> included in the document), and data caps. We could also go to discuss data
>> prices, which is a severe impairment for less developed countries.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you all for keeping this a great community (I mostly watch your
>> email changes, in respect).
>> > >
>> > > Warm regards
>> > >
>> > > Nuno Garcia, Portugal
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 19:02, minda moreira <mindamoreira at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear all,
>> > >>
>> > >> Following Olivier's email sharing the Statement from DC- Core
>> Internet Values, I would like add that we have a close relationship with
>> our sister DC- CIV and that the IRPC shares the same values of a free,
>> global, inclusive, user-centered and rights-based Internet. If there are no
>> objections, I would be happy to reply to Olivier and to let the DC-CIV know
>> of this Coalitions' endorsement.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would suggest editing the last sentence of the point Regional
>> Shutdowns to read along the lines below, to reflect Charter's Article 5 -
>> Freedom of Expression & Information on the Internet:
>> > >> “Shutdowns infringe basic human rights such as freedom of expression
>> and the right to information with harmful consequences for people's lives.”
>> > >>
>> > >> Do let me know if you have any other input or general feedback: you
>> can also edit directly the Google Doc:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oTa7As7hSnrKrERX4sFuV_hkv4y06gP-o6uXbRrQWz8/edit?usp=sharing
>> > >>
>> > >> Many thanks and best wishes,
>> > >> Minda
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ________________________________
>> > >> From: IRP <irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org> on
>> behalf of minda moreira <mindamoreira at hotmail.com>
>> > >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 5:00 PM
>> > >> To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> > >> Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org <
>> irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [IRPCoalition] [DC] Join us on the Statement from DC
>> Core Internet Values
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Olivier,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for sending over the draft statement and for taking the
>> lead in addressing such relevant issue.
>> > >>
>> > >> Copying IRPC list members for input and feedback.
>> > >>
>> > >> Best wishes,
>> > >> Minda
>> > >>
>> > >> ________________________________
>> > >> From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:35 PM
>> > >> To: dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>
>> > >> Subject: [DC] Join us on the Statement from DC Core Internet Values
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Colleagues,
>> > >>
>> > >> the DC on Core Internet Values (DC-CIV) focuses on the Technical
>> > >> evolution of the Internet's Core component parts. Principles such as
>> a
>> > >> being Global, Open, Free, End-to-End, Interoperable, Robust and
>> > >> Reliable, etc.
>> > >>
>> > >> Recently, several governments around the world have taken
>> unprecedented
>> > >> action that blatantly breaks some of these Core Internet Values.
>> Whilst
>> > >> in the past, this kind of activity was performed only in isolated
>> cases
>> > >> by governments that were not seen as democratic, the worrying trend
>> is
>> > >> that we are seeing some democratic governments drafting laws and
>> taking
>> > >> action that would change the nature of the Internet's
>> characteristics as
>> > >> listed above.
>> > >>
>> > >> As you know, the DCs operate in a United Nations environment that
>> > >> prevents any organisation from openly criticising specific member
>> > >> states. Accepting this, a group of volunteers from DC-CIV drafted a
>> more
>> > >> general statement that urges all governments to watch out for actions
>> > >> and laws that they might draft, that might negatively impact on Core
>> > >> Internet Values.
>> > >>
>> > >> The document is currently in draft form and has gone as far as
>> possible
>> > >> within DC-CIV, with consensus found on the wording after much
>> > >> discussion. I am now submitting this to all DCs for their study and
>> > >> approval. In fact, if you think you can improve on the text without
>> > >> losing its core message, then please make suggestions on the Google
>> Doc on:
>> > >>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oTa7As7hSnrKrERX4sFuV_hkv4y06gP-o6uXbRrQWz8/edit?usp=sharing
>> > >>
>> > >> Our plan, once the Statement is complete, is to use all available
>> > >> channels to share it, so here too, your help would be welcome. I hope
>> > >> that many DCs will be able to join us in this Statement, as it
>> reflects
>> > >> the concern of a global community towards a phenomenon that is
>> > >> unfortunately accelerating.
>> > >>
>> > >> Kindest regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> > >> Chair - DC Core Internet Values
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