[IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online speech by US gov

Tue Apr 24 19:19:44 EEST 2012

+1

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Tapani Tarvainen

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27:49AM -0430, Ginger Paque (gpaque at gmail.com) wrote:

> Agree as well. Tx. gp
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> On 24 April 2012 11:12, Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Great! Well, if everyone is happy I will let Mallory know that we would
> > like to sign on (with feedback about use of the term "progressive").
> >
> > Let me know in the next couple of hours!
> > Dixie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org [mailto:
> > irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
> > Franklin
> > Sent: 24 April 2012 16:28
> > To: Norbert Bollow
> > Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online
> > speech by US gov
> >
> > + 1 from me too
> >
> > MF
> >
> > On Tue, April 24, 2012 16:00, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> > > Dear all
> > >
> > >
> > > I also agree with endorsing the statement.
> > >
> > >
> > > Although I'm not totally happy about the word "progressive" in the
> > > title. I tend to think that this is something that just about all
> > > internet rights organisations (that have their heads screwed on right)
> > > would want to strongly denounce, no matter whether they're otherwise
> > > "progressive" or "conservative" or whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Norbert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> > >> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf
> > >> Of Bodle, Robert
> > >> Sent: 24 April 2012 15:41
> > >> To: Marianne Franklin; Meryem Marzouki
> > >> Cc: IRP
> > >> Subject: [IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online
> > >> speech by US gov
> > >>
> > >> Can IRP endorse APC's statement: "Progressive internet rights
> > >> organisations strongly denounce attack on anonymous online speech by
> > >> US government"
> > >> http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-progressive-internet-rights-
> > >> or
> > >> ganisa
> > >>
> > >> "Indeed, throughout history, people's willingness to engage in debate
> > >> on controversial subjects in the public sphere has always been linked
> > >> to possibilities for doing so anonymously"  -Frank La Rue (2011)
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> robert
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Robert Bodle, PhD
> > >> Associate Professor of Communication and New Media Studies College of
> > >> Mount St. Joseph http://robertbodle.org/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> > >> [irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
> > >> Marianne Franklin [M.I.Franklin at gold.ac.uk]
> > >> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:12 AM
> > >> To: Meryem Marzouki
> > >> Cc: IRP
> > >> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on 'Rights of
> > >> Internet Users'
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dear Meryem/all
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Just to confirm that it what I meant; great you can be part of an IRP
> > >> WG on this.
> > >>
> > >> best MF
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, April 21, 2012 01:28, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Marianne and all,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you mean being part of the IRP WG on this? Yes, sure.
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Meryem
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Le 20 avr. 2012 ?  11:02, Marianne Franklin a ??crit :
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi All
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks Meryem. You are going to - want to stay involved directly
> > >>>> with this initiative I hope?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> best MF
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, April 20, 2012 09:58, Dixie Hawtin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi all -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Meryem, this seems like a really great opportunity for the IRP to
> > >>>>> feed in (and hopefully shape) some initiatives at the CoE to push
> > >>>>> our Charter and
> > >>>>> 10 IRPs further... thanks for putting some IRP people up as
> > >>>>> potential experts. And of course, the more IRP members who are
> > >>>>> able to finance themselves to participate as an "observer" the
> > >>>>> better.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Moving forward, I think the best thing to do would be to identify
> > >>>>> who in the Coalition is interested in feeding in to this
> > >>>>> initiative, and then making a smaller working group to focus on
> > >>>>> this issue and coordinate IRP involvement in the group. Do we have
> > >>>>> a sense of when the CoE is going to announce who is on the expert
> > >>>>> group, and what kind of timeframe we are working on?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks again Meryem!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Also just to let everyone know - the IRP Working Group for the IGF
> > >>>>> are working on a number of workshop proposals which we will be
> > >>>>> submitting today. One is a provocative look at the concept of
> > >>>>> multi-stakeholderism, one is looking at whether access to the
> > >>>>> Internet is a human right (following up on the Oped Vint Cerf
> > >>>>> wrote earlier  this year), and one is on empowering internet users
> > >>>>> (which we are co-sponsoring with the Council of Europe). I will
> > >>>>> forward the links to the proposals once they are all up online.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In addition to this we will also have our IRP workshop, which we
> > >>>>> seek to use to really promote awareness and campaign on the 10
> > >>>>> IRPs!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best,
> > >>>>> Dixie
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> > >>>>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On
> > >>>>> Behalf Of David Goldberg
> > >>>>> Sent: 20 April 2012 08:31
> > >>>>> To: Meryem Marzouki
> > >>>>> Cc: IRP
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on "Rights of
> > >>>>> Internet Users"
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dear Meryem,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could be interested in being an "observer" at the Expert
> > >>>>> Group...and I do understand what you say about that being a
> > >>>>> self-financing role...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best wishes,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 19 April 2012 18:15, Meryem Marzouki <meryem at marzouki.info>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dear IRP colleagues,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm representing EDRI (European Digital Rights) as observer to
> > >>>>>> the Council of Europe CDMSI (Steering Committee on Media and
> > >>>>>> Information Society, which held its 1st meeting agenda here:
> > >>>>>> http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/CDMC/default_en.
> > >>>>>> asp) .
> > >>>>>> Among many items on the agenda, the creation of an expert group
> > >>>>>> on "Rights of Internet Users" was (MC-RIU) proposed by the
> > >>>>>> Secretariat and discussed.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The tentative Terms of References and workplan proposed by the
> > >>>>>> Secretariat  (see above link) were discussed during the 1st CDMSI
> > >>>>>> meeting. Members States delegates agreed on its creation,
> > >>>>>> provided that the terms of references are modified a bit, so that
> > >>>>>> item (iii) of the "Main Tasks" now reads: "(iii) advise the
> > >>>>>> CDMSI, upon its request, on all questions within its area of
> > >>>>>> competence and on rights and responsibilities of internet users,
> > >>>>>> intermediaries, and other internet actors."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Anyway, the tasks remain wide enough to develop interesting work
> > >>>>>> in the framework of the MC-RIU group. The main objective for the
> > >>>>>> group, besides the "compendium of Internet users rights"
> > >>>>>> would be to focus on existing recourses and remedies for users.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The group is supposed to be formed by 13 experts (this is the
> > >>>>>> maximum allowed by the available budget, since experts are
> > >>>>>> reimbursed for their expenses to attend the group meetings). It
> > >>>>>> is currently written that these 13 will be 7 Member States
> > >>>>>> representatives and 6 independent experts. After the discussion,
> > >>>>>> there will be "at least" 7 Member States representatives. Of
> > >>>>>> course, there could be more participants in the group, but the
> > >>>>>> additional people will be called "observers".
> > >>>>>> Note that the main difference is
> > >>>>>> that observers don't get reimbursed for their expenses.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> CDMSI members and observers were asked to send expression of
> > >>>>>> interests and suggestions for independent experts (i.e. others
> > >>>>>> than member states representatives) to the Secretariat by April
> > >>>>>> 16. The CDMSI bureau will decide on final selection.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On behalf of EDRI, I expressed our interest to participate as
> > >>>>>> expert, and I made suggestions for other independent experts,
> > >>>>>> taking into account many criteria, such as a willing to include
> > >>>>>> IRP people, as well as gender and country balance (needed to have
> > >>>>>> the suggestions considered) and the fact that budget-wise, it is
> > >>>>>> unlikely that the CoE would bring people based outside of the
> > >>>>>> European continent. Again, not being in the small group of
> > >>>>>> experts that will be selected doesn't mean not being able to
> > >>>>>> participate to the work, though without travel funding to attend
> > >>>>>> meetings. As the attached workplan mentions, at-large
> > >>>>>> consultations will also be organized.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Obviously, this work would highly benefit from the work already
> > >>>>>> done by the IRP (charter, 10 IRP, etc.), as well as by other
> > >>>>>> groups on the same topic. I wanted to inform the coalition of
> > >>>>>> this development, so that we can also collectively follow and
> > >>>>>> participate to this new initiative, especially through the
> > >>>>>> consultations that will be organized. Dixie and Matthias will
> > >>>>>> probably make suggestions to follow-up on this.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>> Meryem
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
> > >>>>>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
> > >>>>>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr IRIS (Imaginons un
> > >>>>>> r??seau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org EDRI (European
> > >>>>>> Digital
> > >>>>>> Rights)
> > >>>>>> - www.edri.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
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> > >>>>> collection of Scots Proverbs (1736)
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Dr M.I. Franklin
> > >>>> Reader
> > >>>> Convener of the Transnational Communications & Global Media Program
> > >>>> Goldsmiths, University of London New Cross, London SE14 6NW United
> > >>>> Kingdom
> > >>>> Email: m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
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> > >>> --
> > >>> Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
> > >>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
> > >>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr IRIS (Imaginons un r??seau
> > >>> Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org EDRI (European Digital
> > >>> Rights) - www.edri.org
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dr M.I. Franklin
> > >> Reader
> > >> Convener of the Transnational Communications & Global Media Program
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> > >> Kingdom
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