[IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online speech by US gov

Tue Apr 24 18:57:49 EEST 2012

Agree as well. Tx. gp

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On 24 April 2012 11:12, Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:

> Great! Well, if everyone is happy I will let Mallory know that we would
> like to sign on (with feedback about use of the term "progressive").
>
> Let me know in the next couple of hours!
> Dixie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org [mailto:
> irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
> Franklin
> Sent: 24 April 2012 16:28
> To: Norbert Bollow
> Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> Subject: Re: [IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online
> speech by US gov
>
> + 1 from me too
>
> MF
>
> On Tue, April 24, 2012 16:00, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> >
> > I also agree with endorsing the statement.
> >
> >
> > Although I'm not totally happy about the word "progressive" in the
> > title. I tend to think that this is something that just about all
> > internet rights organisations (that have their heads screwed on right)
> > would want to strongly denounce, no matter whether they're otherwise
> > "progressive" or "conservative" or whatever.
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> >
> >
> >
> > Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> >> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf
> >> Of Bodle, Robert
> >> Sent: 24 April 2012 15:41
> >> To: Marianne Franklin; Meryem Marzouki
> >> Cc: IRP
> >> Subject: [IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online
> >> speech by US gov
> >>
> >> Can IRP endorse APC's statement: "Progressive internet rights
> >> organisations strongly denounce attack on anonymous online speech by
> >> US government"
> >> http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-progressive-internet-rights-
> >> or
> >> ganisa
> >>
> >> "Indeed, throughout history, people's willingness to engage in debate
> >> on controversial subjects in the public sphere has always been linked
> >> to possibilities for doing so anonymously"  -Frank La Rue (2011)
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert Bodle, PhD
> >> Associate Professor of Communication and New Media Studies College of
> >> Mount St. Joseph http://robertbodle.org/
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> >> [irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Marianne Franklin [M.I.Franklin at gold.ac.uk]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:12 AM
> >> To: Meryem Marzouki
> >> Cc: IRP
> >> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on 'Rights of
> >> Internet Users'
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Meryem/all
> >>
> >>
> >> Just to confirm that it what I meant; great you can be part of an IRP
> >> WG on this.
> >>
> >> best MF
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, April 21, 2012 01:28, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Marianne and all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you mean being part of the IRP WG on this? Yes, sure.
> >>> Best,
> >>> Meryem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le 20 avr. 2012 ?  11:02, Marianne Franklin a ??crit :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Meryem. You are going to - want to stay involved directly
> >>>> with this initiative I hope?
> >>>>
> >>>> best MF
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, April 20, 2012 09:58, Dixie Hawtin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meryem, this seems like a really great opportunity for the IRP to
> >>>>> feed in (and hopefully shape) some initiatives at the CoE to push
> >>>>> our Charter and
> >>>>> 10 IRPs further... thanks for putting some IRP people up as
> >>>>> potential experts. And of course, the more IRP members who are
> >>>>> able to finance themselves to participate as an "observer" the
> >>>>> better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moving forward, I think the best thing to do would be to identify
> >>>>> who in the Coalition is interested in feeding in to this
> >>>>> initiative, and then making a smaller working group to focus on
> >>>>> this issue and coordinate IRP involvement in the group. Do we have
> >>>>> a sense of when the CoE is going to announce who is on the expert
> >>>>> group, and what kind of timeframe we are working on?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again Meryem!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also just to let everyone know - the IRP Working Group for the IGF
> >>>>> are working on a number of workshop proposals which we will be
> >>>>> submitting today. One is a provocative look at the concept of
> >>>>> multi-stakeholderism, one is looking at whether access to the
> >>>>> Internet is a human right (following up on the Oped Vint Cerf
> >>>>> wrote earlier  this year), and one is on empowering internet users
> >>>>> (which we are co-sponsoring with the Council of Europe). I will
> >>>>> forward the links to the proposals once they are all up online.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to this we will also have our IRP workshop, which we
> >>>>> seek to use to really promote awareness and campaign on the 10
> >>>>> IRPs!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Dixie
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> >>>>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On
> >>>>> Behalf Of David Goldberg
> >>>>> Sent: 20 April 2012 08:31
> >>>>> To: Meryem Marzouki
> >>>>> Cc: IRP
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on "Rights of
> >>>>> Internet Users"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Meryem,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could be interested in being an "observer" at the Expert
> >>>>> Group...and I do understand what you say about that being a
> >>>>> self-financing role...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 19 April 2012 18:15, Meryem Marzouki <meryem at marzouki.info>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear IRP colleagues,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm representing EDRI (European Digital Rights) as observer to
> >>>>>> the Council of Europe CDMSI (Steering Committee on Media and
> >>>>>> Information Society, which held its 1st meeting agenda here:
> >>>>>> http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/CDMC/default_en.
> >>>>>> asp) .
> >>>>>> Among many items on the agenda, the creation of an expert group
> >>>>>> on "Rights of Internet Users" was (MC-RIU) proposed by the
> >>>>>> Secretariat and discussed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The tentative Terms of References and workplan proposed by the
> >>>>>> Secretariat  (see above link) were discussed during the 1st CDMSI
> >>>>>> meeting. Members States delegates agreed on its creation,
> >>>>>> provided that the terms of references are modified a bit, so that
> >>>>>> item (iii) of the "Main Tasks" now reads: "(iii) advise the
> >>>>>> CDMSI, upon its request, on all questions within its area of
> >>>>>> competence and on rights and responsibilities of internet users,
> >>>>>> intermediaries, and other internet actors."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, the tasks remain wide enough to develop interesting work
> >>>>>> in the framework of the MC-RIU group. The main objective for the
> >>>>>> group, besides the "compendium of Internet users rights"
> >>>>>> would be to focus on existing recourses and remedies for users.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The group is supposed to be formed by 13 experts (this is the
> >>>>>> maximum allowed by the available budget, since experts are
> >>>>>> reimbursed for their expenses to attend the group meetings). It
> >>>>>> is currently written that these 13 will be 7 Member States
> >>>>>> representatives and 6 independent experts. After the discussion,
> >>>>>> there will be "at least" 7 Member States representatives. Of
> >>>>>> course, there could be more participants in the group, but the
> >>>>>> additional people will be called "observers".
> >>>>>> Note that the main difference is
> >>>>>> that observers don't get reimbursed for their expenses.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> CDMSI members and observers were asked to send expression of
> >>>>>> interests and suggestions for independent experts (i.e. others
> >>>>>> than member states representatives) to the Secretariat by April
> >>>>>> 16. The CDMSI bureau will decide on final selection.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On behalf of EDRI, I expressed our interest to participate as
> >>>>>> expert, and I made suggestions for other independent experts,
> >>>>>> taking into account many criteria, such as a willing to include
> >>>>>> IRP people, as well as gender and country balance (needed to have
> >>>>>> the suggestions considered) and the fact that budget-wise, it is
> >>>>>> unlikely that the CoE would bring people based outside of the
> >>>>>> European continent. Again, not being in the small group of
> >>>>>> experts that will be selected doesn't mean not being able to
> >>>>>> participate to the work, though without travel funding to attend
> >>>>>> meetings. As the attached workplan mentions, at-large
> >>>>>> consultations will also be organized.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Obviously, this work would highly benefit from the work already
> >>>>>> done by the IRP (charter, 10 IRP, etc.), as well as by other
> >>>>>> groups on the same topic. I wanted to inform the coalition of
> >>>>>> this development, so that we can also collectively follow and
> >>>>>> participate to this new initiative, especially through the
> >>>>>> consultations that will be organized. Dixie and Matthias will
> >>>>>> probably make suggestions to follow-up on this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Meryem
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
> >>>>>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
> >>>>>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr IRIS (Imaginons un
> >>>>>> r??seau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org EDRI (European
> >>>>>> Digital
> >>>>>> Rights)
> >>>>>> - www.edri.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>> --
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> >>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
> >>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr IRIS (Imaginons un r??seau
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