[IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online speech by US gov

Tue Apr 24 18:27:46 EEST 2012

+ 1 from me too

MF

On Tue, April 24, 2012 16:00, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> Dear all
>
>
> I also agree with endorsing the statement.
>
>
> Although I'm not totally happy about the word "progressive" in the
> title. I tend to think that this is something that just about all internet
> rights organisations (that have their heads screwed on right) would want
> to strongly denounce, no matter whether they're otherwise "progressive" or
> "conservative" or whatever.
>
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
>
>
> Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bodle, Robert
>> Sent: 24 April 2012 15:41
>> To: Marianne Franklin; Meryem Marzouki
>> Cc: IRP
>> Subject: [IRP] APC statement to denounce attacks on anonymous online
>> speech by US gov
>>
>> Can IRP endorse APC's statement: "Progressive internet rights
>> organisations strongly denounce attack on anonymous online speech by US
>> government"
>> http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-progressive-internet-rights-or
>> ganisa
>>
>> "Indeed, throughout history, people's willingness to engage in debate
>> on controversial subjects in the public sphere has always been linked
>> to possibilities for doing so anonymously"  -Frank La Rue (2011)
>>
>> Best,
>> robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Bodle, PhD
>> Associate Professor of Communication and New Media Studies
>> College of Mount St. Joseph
>> http://robertbodle.org/
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> [irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
>> Marianne Franklin [M.I.Franklin at gold.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:12 AM
>> To: Meryem Marzouki
>> Cc: IRP
>> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on 'Rights of Internet
>> Users'
>>
>>
>> Dear Meryem/all
>>
>>
>> Just to confirm that it what I meant; great you can be part of an IRP
>> WG
>> on this.
>>
>> best MF
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, April 21, 2012 01:28, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marianne and all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you mean being part of the IRP WG on this? Yes, sure.
>>> Best,
>>> Meryem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 20 avr. 2012 ?? 11:02, Marianne Franklin a ??crit :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Meryem. You are going to - want to stay involved directly
>>>> with this initiative I hope?
>>>>
>>>> best MF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, April 20, 2012 09:58, Dixie Hawtin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Meryem, this seems like a really great opportunity for the IRP to
>>>>>  feed in (and hopefully shape) some initiatives at the CoE to
>>>>> push our Charter and
>>>>> 10 IRPs further... thanks for putting some IRP people up as
>>>>> potential experts. And of course, the more IRP members who are
>>>>> able to finance themselves to participate as an "observer" the
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moving forward, I think the best thing to do would be to identify
>>>>> who in the Coalition is interested in feeding in to this
>>>>> initiative, and then making a smaller working group to focus on
>>>>> this issue and coordinate IRP involvement in the group. Do we have
>>>>> a sense of when the CoE is going to announce who is on the expert
>>>>> group, and what kind of timeframe we are working on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again Meryem!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also just to let everyone know - the IRP Working Group for the
>>>>> IGF
>>>>> are working on a number of workshop proposals which we will be
>>>>> submitting today. One is a provocative look at the concept of
>>>>> multi-stakeholderism, one is looking at whether access to the
>>>>> Internet
>>>>> is a human right (following up on the Oped Vint Cerf wrote earlier
>>>>>  this year), and one is on empowering internet users (which we
>>>>> are co-sponsoring with the Council of Europe). I will forward the
>>>>> links to the proposals once they are all up online.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to this we will also have our IRP workshop, which we
>>>>> seek to use to really promote awareness and campaign on the 10
>>>>> IRPs!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Dixie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>>>>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> David Goldberg
>>>>> Sent: 20 April 2012 08:31
>>>>> To: Meryem Marzouki
>>>>> Cc: IRP
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IRP] FYI - New CoE group of experts on "Rights of
>>>>> Internet
>>>>> Users"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Meryem,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I could be interested in being an "observer" at the Expert
>>>>> Group...and I
>>>>> do understand what you say about that being a self-financing
>>>>> role...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 April 2012 18:15, Meryem Marzouki <meryem at marzouki.info>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear IRP colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm representing EDRI (European Digital Rights) as observer to
>>>>>> the Council of Europe CDMSI (Steering Committee on Media and
>>>>>> Information
>>>>>> Society, which held its 1st meeting agenda here:
>>>>>> http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/CDMC/default_en.
>>>>>> asp) .
>>>>>> Among many items on the agenda, the creation of an expert group
>>>>>> on "Rights of Internet Users" was (MC-RIU) proposed by the
>>>>>> Secretariat
>>>>>> and discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tentative Terms of References and workplan proposed by the
>>>>>> Secretariat  (see above link) were discussed during the 1st
>>>>>> CDMSI
>>>>>> meeting. Members States delegates agreed on its creation,
>>>>>> provided that the terms of references are modified a bit, so
>>>>>> that item (iii) of the "Main Tasks" now reads: "(iii) advise the
>>>>>> CDMSI, upon its
>>>>>> request, on all questions within its area of competence and on
>>>>>> rights and responsibilities of internet users, intermediaries,
>>>>>> and other internet actors."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, the tasks remain wide enough to develop interesting
>>>>>> work in the framework of the MC-RIU group. The main objective
>>>>>> for the group, besides the "compendium of Internet users rights"
>>>>>> would be to focus on existing recourses and remedies for users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The group is supposed to be formed by 13 experts (this is the
>>>>>> maximum allowed by the available budget, since experts are
>>>>>> reimbursed for their expenses to attend the group meetings). It
>>>>>> is currently written that these 13 will be 7 Member States
>>>>>> representatives and 6 independent experts. After the
>>>>>> discussion, there will be "at least" 7 Member States
>>>>>> representatives. Of course, there could be more participants in
>>>>>> the group, but the additional people will be called "observers".
>>>>>> Note that the main difference is
>>>>>> that observers don't get reimbursed for their expenses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CDMSI members and observers were asked to send expression of
>>>>>> interests and suggestions for independent experts (i.e. others
>>>>>> than member states representatives) to the Secretariat by April
>>>>>> 16. The
>>>>>> CDMSI bureau will
>>>>>> decide on final selection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On behalf of EDRI, I expressed our interest to participate as
>>>>>> expert, and I made suggestions for other independent experts,
>>>>>> taking into account many criteria, such as a willing to include
>>>>>> IRP people,
>>>>>> as well as gender and country balance (needed to have the
>>>>>> suggestions considered) and the fact that budget-wise, it is
>>>>>> unlikely that the CoE would bring people based outside of the
>>>>>> European continent. Again, not
>>>>>> being in the small group of experts that will be selected
>>>>>> doesn't mean not being able to participate to the work, though
>>>>>> without travel funding to attend meetings. As the attached
>>>>>> workplan mentions, at-large consultations will also be
>>>>>> organized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, this work would highly benefit from the work already
>>>>>>  done by the IRP (charter, 10 IRP, etc.), as well as by other
>>>>>> groups on the same topic. I wanted to inform the coalition of
>>>>>> this development, so that we can also collectively follow and
>>>>>> participate to this new initiative, especially through the
>>>>>> consultations that will be organized. Dixie and Matthias will
>>>>>> probably make suggestions to follow-up on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Meryem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
>>>>>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
>>>>>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr IRIS (Imaginons un
>>>>>> r??seau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org EDRI (European
>>>>>> Digital
>>>>>> Rights)
>>>>>> - www.edri.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
>>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr
>>> IRIS (Imaginons un r??seau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org
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