[IRP] Procedure of Experts

Rikke Frank Joergensen rfj
Fri Jan 15 23:03:05 EET 2010

Hi all

i think its important to stress that we (wolfgang particularly) have done some outreach to identify and contact additional experts, but the main task of identifying more people from the South rest with the broader coalition, and not the expert group as such. 

Also, in my opinion the main focus is not to find language which is acceptable for all, but to consolidate a draft which substantively move the IRC forward. Thus to focus on the substance first and foremost. 

As regards guidelines, I believe that after we finish our work there will be plenty of opportunity for the coalition to work in more detail on implementation guidelines.

all best 

-----Original Message-----
From: wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at [mailto:wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at]
Sent: Fri 15-01-2010 20:10
To: Max Senges; irp
Cc: Lisa Horner; Rikke Frank Joergensen; Meryem Marzouki
Subject: AW: Procedure of Experts
Thanks Max, dear Lisa,



thanks for putting the text in a better format. Just realize that he first paragraph should have been rephrased. Anyway, I take it that the IRP DC wants us to try and everybody will have a possiblity to comment anyway.


As can be read at the end of what I would call our mandate there are two experts from the South identified so far. It would be important to have at least one more person from Asia and suggestions are welcome.


There is no question that we should aim at a language which is generally acceptable, but it is also clear that we cannot limit ourselves to what is acceptable to governments or inter-governmental organizations, because in that case we could make a reference to existing adopted texts and leave it with that.


Best regards








Univ.-Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Benedek

Institut f?r V?lkerrecht und Internationale Beziehungen

Institute for International Law and International Relations

Karl-Franzens-Universit?t Graz

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Von: Max Senges [mailto:maxsenges at gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. J?nner 2010 14:41
An: Benedek, Wolfgang (wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at); irp
Cc: Lisa Horner; Rikke Frank Joergensen; Meryem Marzouki
Betreff: Re: Procedure of Experts


Hi everybody

Wolfgang (and I assume Rikke and Meryem) are ready to start their work.

I think it is very important that we expand the expert group with colleagues from the south. 

@Wolfgang and all: how do you plan to identify and select them?

Also I copied the mandate for the expert group in a publicly viewable and editable g-doc (no registration required :-) 

And I made a couple of updates (regarding the start on 15th of January) and a short comment:

"It also seems important to stress that the Charter is meant to represent a multistakeholder group and hence language should aim to be acceptable to governments, intergovernmental institutions, private companies and civil society groups."

I thought it would be helpful to remind everybody that the charter is not a civil society advocacy document.

Lastly I want to reiterate the fact that this collaborative effort is entitled "Charter on Human Rights and Principles on the Internet" and that the authoring body is the Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. While I accept the preference of the experts to experiment with a matrix structure, I would like to stress the immanent importance of ensuring that "implementation principles" have an important role in the coalitions approach and should be easily discernible.



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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Wolfgang Benedek <wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at> wrote:

Dear Lisa and Max,

I understand that from tomorrow we should start our part.

In this context we wanted to send You what we consider the actual understanding of the procedure of our work. If You have any comments please share them with us before the end of the weekend.

We intend to send this also to the experts from the South, and it should certainly also be shared with our community.

Best regards



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