[IRP] Vedrò position statement on Internet Regulation

[Max Senges]

Dear Parminder, Katitza, Robin

I understand and agree to your point. Let me explain the situation: I was
invited to this italian think-tank meeting because of the historic role
Italy (namely Stefano Rodota) has played in the creation of one of the
joined parts of our coalition. I participated as good as I could in the
working group (my italian is quite limited) but managed to have the group
include references to Human Rights as well as initiate the process to setup
a italian online rights infringement clearning house complementing the
US-centric chillingeffects.

Again I understand and agree that copyright and other human rights are
different creatures and should not have been raised together. The text was
only available in italian and i missed this - I hope you can forgive my
oscitancy to this sentence.

Yours,
Max

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:

>  Max
>
> With all due respect, I have huge and fundamental problems with
> characterizing  copyright as a fundamental right. You may not be asking
> anyone to sign the statement but in the list of working group members your
> affiliation is mentioned as the chair of DC on IRP, and I dont think it is
> ok at all. I want to be polite, and not personal at all, but this is not a
> small issue. I would have ignored if it were a small issue, which it isnt. I
> have no idea what made you accept membership of a WG whose  purpose
> description mentions copyright as a fundamental right, but that is your
> personal affair. My objection is that your membership in the WG is listed
> with IRP affiliation, in fact as its chair.
>
> parminder
>
> Max Senges wrote:
>
> I am not asking anybody to sign the vedro statement - it's the work of a
> group that got together last week - see you on sunday - max
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Katitza Rodriguez <
> katitza at datos-personales.org> wrote:
>
>>  Dear Max
>>
>>  I am completely against to this specific phrase where you put privacy
>> together with copyright in such as negative connotation.
>> The statement we already signed already reflect the vision of many of this
>> group.
>>
>>  Best,
>> Katitza
>>
>>
>>   On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Max Senges wrote:
>>
>>    Dear IRPlers
>>
>> IRP steering committee member Marco Pancini and myself participated in a 3
>> day think-tank workshop, where we discussed Internet regulation especially
>> in the Italian context. We collabowrote a position statement that strongly
>> features Human Rights and a user centered approach to Internet Governance.
>> And we managed to call for and find commitment to bootstrap an Italian
>> version/complement to the Chilling Effects clearing house for Online Rights
>> infringement cases (www.chillingeffects.org pretty well setup for the USA
>> with Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley and many others feeding the site).
>>
>> Marco kindly provided an english version of our position statement, which
>> I just put online @
>> http://docs.google.com/View?id=ajcs86p9dx2s_20d2g3nwd9
>>
>> I think there are a couple of good points there, which we might want to
>> pick up during our workshop this Sunday.
>>
>> Best,
>> Max
>>
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