[IRP] IRP Charter Draft meeting 10-15-09

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl
Fri Oct 16 10:02:27 EEST 2009


Thank you Robert, for an excellent set of notes!
Warm regards,

Olivier

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From: "Bodle, Robert" <Robert_Bodle at mail.msj.edu>
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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 2:09 AM
Subject: [IRP] IRP Charter Draft meeting 10-15-09


> Hello everyone,
>
> Here are some notes from today?s charter draft review meeting Thurs. 15:00 
> CET to better coordinate with Friday?s meeting at 18:00 CET (12pm EST).
>
> Those in attendance: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond, Emily Laidlaw, and Robert 
> Bodle.
>
> We had a brief but lively discussion addressing wiki procedure, 
> acknowledgement of other works, language, length of document, transparency 
> concerns and Section II.
>
> Wiki Procedure ? when editing the wiki Olivier suggested we proceed or 
> follow our edits/contributions with our initials (to be removed later). 
> This might help with discussing articles for revision.
>
> Olivier also suggested citing our sources as in-text citations, to later 
> be added as end-notes (a la Wikipedia).
>
> We addressed Lisa?s concern with tone/guidelines for balancing rights 
> language. Emily suggested we follow EU language of proportionality 
> (please correct this if wrong).
>
> Emily had a bad experience with wiki timing out losing her edits  - 
> suggesting serious writing be done in word processor then cut and paste 
> into wiki (not sure of actual time-out length but maybe an hour).
>
> We also discussed acknowledgment of other works (WSIS declaration of 
> principles, document and  Internet Human Rights Declaration by 15 Chinese 
> intellectuals) in the preamble.
>
> Olivier discussed length of document. Section II has a caveat about the 
> wiki code exceeding size limits. We should consider length of document as 
> both a technical and readability issue.
>
> Transparency issues have arisen, with the wiki requiring registration lags 
> of 24 hours or so. This might have turned people away. Wiki is now open.
>
> Rights list was discussed as primary listserv to discuss edits, but 
> redundancies were also suggested to help with transparency, with IRP 
> general listserv fatigue suggested as well.
>
> Lastly we discussed Section II and Olivier discussed the fact that 
> although Section I is shaping up nicely, that many articles are still 
> untouched. Emily suggested that moving too quickly with Section II without 
> completing Section I will be a poor indication of quality and seriousness 
> of pursuit. Olivier suggested that with a higher quality Section I we can 
> then attract greater collaboration on the document for Section II.
>
> Looking forward to discussing these points as well as content of the 
> articles at tomorrow?s meeting.
>
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
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> Division of Arts and Humanities
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