[IRP] APC rights charter / Internet bill of rights

Lisa Horner lisa
Mon Jun 15 11:42:49 EEST 2009


Hi Jacques
 
The link to the wiki is here: http://irc.wiki.apc.org/ <http://server.global-partners.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://irc.wiki.apc.org/>  
 
All the best,
Lisa

________________________________

From: Jacques Berleur [mailto:jberleur at info.fundp.ac.be]
Sent: Sun 14/06/2009 00:23
To: Lisa Horner
Subject: Re: [IRP] APC rights charter / Internet bill of rights



Would it be possible, Lisa, to get the APC document?
Many thanks.
--
Jacques Berleur
Facult?s Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix
61, rue de Bruxelles
B - 5000 NAMUR
URL: http://info.fundp.ac.be/~jbl



Lisa Horner <lisa at global-partners.co.uk> a ?crit :

> Hi all
>
>
>
> Sorry for joining this discussion so late, and thanks again to APC for
> inviting our participation in the review of the charter.  I just have a
> couple of questions to the folk at APC, and a couple of wider
> comments/questions...
>
>
>
> APC - Would it be possible to give us a bit of background about why
> you've decided to review the charter?  I think that might help guide the
> editing process.  What was the process of creating the original charter,
> and are there any specific issues that you think now need to be
> addressed? Did you have feedback from different people about what might
> make it more useful, and how do you envisage using the charter in the
> future?  Finally, is there a timescale/deadline for this?
>
>
>
> IRP coalition members - When the coalition name changed from "bill of
> rights" to "IRP", there was a fairly large contingent of people who were
> keen to still work on an internet bill of rights.  But there haven't
> been any responses to this invitation from APC to work on this charter.
> Is there any reason for that...is this the kind of thing that people had
> in mind?  Or is it just a case of not having enough time...I know we'd
> all like more of that!
>
>
>
> Finally, I was wondering about the use of the term "rights" in the
> charter.  I personally fall into the camp of people saying we don't need
> new rights for the internet - just that we need to interpret and apply
> the human rights that are already enshrined in international law.  I
> think that initiatives like this charter are an important way of doing
> that, and I realise that the charter explicitly says that that the new
> rights are rooted in the UDHR.  But for me, the statements in the
> charter are "principles" that flesh out the meaning of our human rights
> in the context of the internet.  I think that a wider range of people
> might engage with the charter if we simply change "all people should
> have the right to..." to "all people should be able to" or other such
> language.
>
>
>
> This may seem like semantics, but I think it might make a significant
> difference to how the wider human rights community and other
> stakeholders view the charter.  However, I'd still like to participate
> in this process if we stick with rights.  But I just wanted to open the
> discussion up to see what people think...
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
> karen banks
> Sent: 23 May 2009 08:48
> To: anriette at apc.org; Max Senges
> Cc: irp
> Subject: Re: [IRP] Right to Freedom of Movement: Partnering with APC to
> review the Internet Rights Charter
>
>
>
> hi all
>
>
>
>
>> One quick question: should we use our mailing list as communication
>> channel for discussions about changes or do you have a seperate list
>> setup?
>
> Or, just use the wiki?
>
>
> We do have a list setup - rights at lists.apc.org - which might be easier
> to use for discussion - as opposed to comments on charter revision.. are
> people happy moving discussion to rights at lists.apc.org ?
>
> you can subscribe here:
> http://lists.apc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rights
>
> karen
>
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