IRP Digest, Vol 379, Issue 1
Said Essoulami
cmfmena at aol.com
Tue Mar 5 12:56:30 EET 2024
Dear friends and colleagues
I tried to add three small paragraphs but didn't know where they should go.
1. Internet governance and Artificial Intelligence, in particular its ethical aspects2. protection of access to the Internet, in particular during conflict. The news today that the Internet cable under the Red Sea were damaged resulting in the disturbance of access in many countries3. The importance of open access to the Internet for achieving the UN sustainable development goals 2015-2030, in particular goals 4 and 5.
All the best
Said Essoulami
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbopArGY97FyJJ9NWYCNG0MQlD9Zsbgz2QvbifxINRs/edit
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1. Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs Deadline
Extended to Friday, 8 March (minda moreira)
2. Re: Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs Deadline
Extended to Friday, 8 March (Gregorius Advena)
3. Re: Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs Deadline
Extended to Friday, 8 March (Timothy Holborn)
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 10:31:56 +0000
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Subject: [IRPCoalition] Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs
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Dear all,
The deadline for inputs to the IGF Leadership Panel's framework for "The Internet We Want" has been extended to Friday 8th March.
Our contribution is still on draft form:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbopArGY97FyJJ9NWYCNG0MQlD9Zsbgz2QvbifxINRs/edit
Please feel free to contribute as soon as possible for submission by this Wednesday 6th March.
Please note that we are collaborating with our sister coalition, the Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values (DC-CIV).
The DC-CIV input has been submitted and we are grateful for the references to the IRPC work.
Many thanks and best wishes,
Minda
[on behalf of the IRPC SC]
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The IGF Leadership Panel?s framework for the ?Internet We Want? remains open for comment until Friday, 8 March!
???
All still have the opportunity to share their thoughts on a vision for a digital ecosystem that is open, inclusive, trustworthy, secure and respects human rights.
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COMMENT HERE!<https://www.intgovforum.org/en/content/the-internet-we-want>
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:25:47 +0000
From: Gregorius Advena <ad.gregorium at startmail.com>
To: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
Subject: Re: [IRPCoalition] Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework |
Inputs Deadline Extended to Friday, 8 March
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Thank you! I would demand, on my part, that the defence of human rights
in the "Internet We Want" not become subservient to capitalist
interests. I note an absence of criticism to the fact that services that
ought to be provided as public services are only accessible via business
monopols. Joseph Stiglitz has rightly noted, in a recent speech, that
social networks for public interaction online should *also* be provided
by national states. This enables, in some states at least, a more
transparent alternative than platforms owned by businesses. I would not
like to live in a city where every steet is privately owned. Nor is an
internet in which every communication channel is privately owned the
Internet I want. This is the message I send, as a stakeholder, to other
stakeholders. Kind regards, GA
On 3/4/2024 10:31 AM, minda moreira wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The deadline for inputs to the IGF Leadership Panel's framework for
> "The Internet We Want" has been extended to *Friday 8^th ?March*.
>
> Our?contribution is still on draft
> form:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbopArGY97FyJJ9NWYCNG0MQlD9Zsbgz2QvbifxINRs/edit
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbopArGY97FyJJ9NWYCNG0MQlD9Zsbgz2QvbifxINRs/edit>
> Please feel free to contribute as soon as possible for submission by
> *this Wednesday 6^th ?March*.
>
> Please note that we are collaborating?with our sister coalition, the
> Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values (DC-CIV).
> The DC-CIV input has been submitted and we are grateful for the
> references to the IRPC work.
>
> Many thanks and best wishes,
> Minda
>
> [on behalf of the IRPC SC]
>
>
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> *From:*?IGF Secretariat <igf at un.org>
> *Sent:*?Monday, March 4, 2024 10:01 AM
> *To:* dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>
> *Subject:*?[DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs Deadline Extended
> to Friday, 8 March
>
> *The IGF Leadership Panel?s framework for the ?Internet We Want?
> remains open for comment until Friday, 8 March!*
>
> *???*
>
> _All_?still have the opportunity to share their thoughts on a vision
> for a digital ecosystem that is open, inclusive, trustworthy, secure
> and respects human rights.
>
> *???*
>
> **
>
> *COMMENT HERE!
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/en/content/the-internet-we-want>*
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:26:10 +1000
From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn at gmail.com>
To: minda moreira <mindamoreira at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IRPCoalition] Fw: [DC] Internet We Want Framework |
Inputs Deadline Extended to Friday, 8 March
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Hi All,
Few notes, not sure how to incorporate, but i thought i'd socialise the
considerations.
1. Peace Infrastructure Projects --> Peace Industries --> Departments of
Peace? to achieve SDGs
Internet, provides a set of tools that can empower all members of our human
family to be engaged in works with one-another, as to support our
conjoint means to achieve SDGs, et. al.
Few considerations about requirements therein;
1.1. ability to forge agreements with one-another, perhaps using UN
Instrument based terms to support 'shared values' in how we define those
agreements.
This is considered important for 'social web', in relation to 'human
centric' ecosystems (web, AI, Internet, etc.) where platforms (ie: social
media silos) may not be REQUIRED as intermediaries between all human
relationships.
Notes about 'Agreements' (as distinct to 'mandates')
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MZ_jhKd8MC2D3c91VsKl7auHmv4xqLfq2nusA1Tl3ko/edit
1.2 Humanitarian ICT workers
Internet brings about many differences to historical industrial
development; as works can be carried out internationally. There are many
forms of projects, works, infrastructure, etc. considered 'peace
infrastructure' and increasingly vital; alongside projects, such as
ensuring all 'mother tongue languages' are supported by internet; that are
amongst the many 'peace infrastructure projects' and related humanitarian
ICT works. I think there needs to be some sort of framework to support
'humanitarian ict' workers.
1.3 Humanitarian ICT Services
In cases where the internet is 'turned off' or otherwise limited (ie: due
to natural disaster, etc); then, the means to distinguish digital
infrastructure that is considered to be a constituency of 'humanitarian
ict' services - seems reasonably beneficial. Whilst ID2020 seemingly
instantiated considerations about 'refugee digital credentials' around
2015/6, the underlying assumptions would include the belief that internet
has not been 'turned off'...
both (1.2) and (1.3) are considered to be matters of importance for IHL
(international humanitarian law).
2. Advancement of Humanitarian ICT (generally).
I think there's alot of 'peace infrastructure projects' that are both
important and necessary. We don't have 'departments of peace', and there's
presently great difficulties in seeking to establish 'obligation free'
software / digital works (ie: no 'digital slavery' in the supply chain,
fair-work (human rights) principles supported electronically, leading to
obligations being met (people were paid fairly for their works) and
consequentially free-digital-commons - 'obligation free' software, etc.);
as such, those seeking to get paid the 'big bucks' aren't really focused on
'peace infrastructure projects'. historically, people were paid to build
churches, libraries, etc... but they didn't own them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day can provide a definition of
'work' as distinct from other activities in life.
2.1 Cyber Security (addressing corruption issues)
There needs to be ways to address the 'realities' of situations,
particularly if participants want to take a matter to a court of law to be
considered / dealt with, peacefully... it is considered that tech has
advanced to a point, where 'knowledge systems' can be deployed,
particularly within 'work' contexts.
note: draft document - professional wallets (linked into institutional
digital evidence collection systems):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gjmxz8NRMbtK-vp-z8UnL4IIB05COqW-oWO76al3GfQ/edit
3. related notes
I've been working on a 'agent discovery protocol' (temporary name,
perhaps); https://github.com/WebCivics/ADP/blob/main/docs/OpenLetter.md
The notion is that there's an ability to employ domains with a simple file
stored on the domain, to support various use-cases; including, social-web
related needs, but not exclusively.
credentials can be used to help define such things as 'humanitarian ict'
websites; or, methods MAY be advanced, to better support 'age appropriate'
ecosystems (ie: particularly for children); there are various other
considerations.
It has been my observation, that the context in which these works are
presently occurring is built upon the works that have developed -
particularly relating to the 'verifiable credentials' works (although,
seemingly not commercially focused on 'professional identity wallets' to
address corruption issues, whilst that infrastructure has in-effect been
delivered, perhaps it wouldn't have been if the documentation was
different); since, the beginnings relating to works that were focused on
web-payments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8cIYzy5MIA needs; have been
progressed on the basis of negotiating from the basic frame provided via
market-saturation commercialisation processes during covid.
I think there needs to be greater scope and consideration given to 'what
can be made' (as distinct to, what is now being sold by vendors, such as
MS); and in-turn also, the practices, methods, systems and requirements to
ensure human rights supports are integrated into systems that are intended
to support the production of any such new tools, as required - in fields of
'peace infrastructure projects' & Humanitarian ICT; as required, to protect
human rights & deliver SDGs.
I was very encouraged by
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxNNoH3uluw9VWVmwNrcLTkSXp6l4gCjQy at the
end of last year, believing that the notes made - reflected, progress..
there's alot to do...
FWIW: as a means to define the 'focus' of continuing works, where i was
involved in W3C Credentials, Web-Payments, WebID, RWW (now known as solid)
and other components required for 'knowledge banks' and Human Centric AI; i
started a 'peace infrastructure project' list and related works, as the
mission (very old, but from 2010 onwards in particular) has been about
rendering meaningful supports for protecting human rights, particularly
those of children, (in courts of law, etc.); notwithstanding the various
broader considerations that may be built upon works that foundationally
support 'values', including 'freedom of thought' and various other -
complex issues / requirements, poorly suited to 'wallets' as a cureall...
i've noted the list / library links below (library isn't very well 'sorted'
but has alot in it). In my view, we need to build the infrastructure we
need to produce 'medicinal earth' outcomes... which is about what we do,
and how we do it. One of the biggest issues at present, appears to be
corruption and our means to address it in a timely manner; whilst, figuring
out how to support both rule of law, and means to ensure wrong-doers do not
disproportionately benefit from engaging in gainful activities that are
unlawful; and indeed also, how to better serve the needs of people who
refuse to engage in unlawful activity, but may then suffer and/or be
disabled / unable to further works, as a consequence of their commitment to
law / human rights, etc.
for instance;i was involved in establishing 'w3c credentials'
https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/2014/08/06/call-for-participation-in-credentials-community-group/
which created 'verifiable credentials', often known as 'digital identity'
(nb: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/ ); but I did not get
involved in wrongs, as my focus has always been on ensuring foundational
support for human rights... whereas others,
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/feb/27/covid-vaccine-mandate-queensland-emergency-workers-police-ambulance-unlawful
(i live in QLD)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme
(the governmental organisation who is becoming the digital identity system
administrator)
As such, I was effectively excluded from the gainful works others were
involved in, as works sought to deploy 'digital identity' to global market
saturation.
IMO: not 'peaceful'... insight becomes, the need to figure out how to
better support 'humanitarian ict' workers... (also, human 'identity' is far
more complex than any 'wallet service'... notwithstanding the usefulness of
the tooling, to address corruption (ie; professional identity wallets) and
various other use-cases...); whilst https://www.ruleoflaw.org.au/principles/
illustrates various rights of persons; means to ensure people are allowed
to support human rights, needs supports.
I hope my notes help.
Tim.
list: https://groups.google.com/g/peace-infrastructure-project
library:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tYFIggw8MIY5fD2u-nbwFRM6wqrhdmQZ
On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 20:32, minda moreira <mindamoreira at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The deadline for inputs to the IGF Leadership Panel's framework for "The
> Internet We Want" has been extended to *Friday 8th March*.
>
> Our contribution is still on draft form:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbopArGY97FyJJ9NWYCNG0MQlD9Zsbgz2QvbifxINRs/edit
> Please feel free to contribute as soon as possible for submission by *this
> Wednesday 6th March*.
>
> Please note that we are collaborating with our sister coalition, the
> Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values (DC-CIV).
> The DC-CIV input has been submitted and we are grateful for the references
> to the IRPC work.
>
> Many thanks and best wishes,
> Minda
>
> [on behalf of the IRPC SC]
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* IGF Secretariat <igf at un.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2024 10:01 AM
> *To:* dc at intgovforum.org <dc at intgovforum.org>
> *Subject:* [DC] Internet We Want Framework | Inputs Deadline Extended to
> Friday, 8 March
>
>
>
>
> *The IGF Leadership Panel?s framework for the ?Internet We Want? remains
> open for comment until Friday, 8 March!*
>
> *???*
>
> *All* still have the opportunity to share their thoughts on a vision for
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> respects human rights.
>
> *???*
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>
>
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