[IRPCoalition] RES: Internet principles and IGF 8

Vanda UOL vanda at uol.com.br
Thu Nov 29 16:05:59 EET 2012

Agreeing with Marilia I do believe CGI.br (Board for Brazil´s  country code
TLD) list of principles, available  at the link posted below is the basic
principles for worldwide Internet community and we could use it as base for
our discussions. .br already presented this list out of Brazil and was well
received by the community.   




Vanda Scartezini

Polo Consultores Associados 

IT Trend

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Mob + 5511 98181.1464





De: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
[mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] Em nome de
Marilia Maciel
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 28 de novembro de 2012 22:23
Para: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
Assunto: Re: [IRPCoalition] Internet principles and IGF 8


Hello all,


I am very glad to hear about this initiative to establish a dialogue among
the several parallel initiatives to develop Internet principles. I think
that the IRP coalition has developed a remarkable collaborative document of
principles, which is detailed and objective at the same time. The coalition
is a reference on the discussion about principles, therefore, it makes sense
that it is one of the key actors to facilitate the forthcoming discussions
about this topic. 


Regardless of the quality of IRP's document, I think that future efforts
should go on the direction of bringing together all valuable initiatives of
principles that have emerged lately, identify the overlaps and the
differences and, hopefully, come up with a document that would "steal" good
language and reflect the concerns from different proposals. It is also my
impression that the efforts that have been made so far to map the
initiatives of principles are too focused on those that have emerged on the
North of the globe. There are interesting discussions about principles in
Latin America, Africa and Asia that need to be mapped and analyzed. 


As a first small contribution on that direction, CTS/FGV has build up on the
initial mapping that Wolfgang Klainwachter has made (translated and
published in Portuguese by Nupef) and has added side by side the principles
encompassed in Marco Civil (the Brazilian Civil Rights Framework for the
Internet) and in the list of principles by CGI.br. Those who are interested
can find it in the Annuary of digital policies in Brazil (draft translation
into English) pages 81-87 available at: 


My point is that a broader mapping of initiatives clearly needs to be done.
A roundtable sounds like a good idea,  specially if preceded by some
background work, and this all something that IRP could play a role in.


Best wishes,




On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>

Thank you for your message, Parminder.


On 28/11/2012 10:03, parminder wrote:

During the main session on emerging issues and going ahead at the IGF, there
was a section on developing Internet principles. (This main session ran at
the same time as the meeting of the IRP or Internet Rights and Principles
dynamic coalition and therefore I could not attend the later and am looking
forward to a report of the same.)


Did I read this correctly? The session on developing Internet Principles
took place at the same time as the meeting of the IRP? Quite unfortunate.
One of my comments during the IRP session was that we have to stop letting
the wheel be re-invented. We need to publicise the IRP's work and let others
build on this if they wish to join forces, but not go round the pot 1000
times and turn recurring circles. Oh -- and a general criticism of IGF Baku
organisation is that if someone wanted to have discussions run in Silos,
that's EXACTLY how hey would have organised it.
Kind regards,


Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD

IRP mailing list
IRP at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org


Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade
FGV Direito Rio

Center for Technology and Society
Getulio Vargas Foundation
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

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