[IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
michael gurstein
gurstein
Wed Jul 11 18:18:43 EEST 2012
Hi Steve,
Just to reiterate the very close fraternal relationship with the Internet
Governance Caucus (associated with the Internet Governance Forum). The IGC
tends to respond to broader (and more technical) issues associated with
Internet Governance while the IRP deals more directly with HR issues as they
impact on the Internet but of course, there is a strong inter-penetration of
one to the other.
This seems currently to be intensifying quite significantly in the context
of various upcoming global internet forums (that of the IGF in Azerbaijan in
November and the ITU (WCIT) in Dubai in December for which the various sign
on letters, declarations etc. are being prepared.
(Something that hasn`t been discussed here as yet I think is if or how the
IGC and the IRP will collaborate in the context of the WCIT where neither
has been particularly active to date so far as I know.)
(Not being very HR literate my own role here has been to comment from time
to time on how the Principles might interact with/impact broader digital
divide issues.)
Best
M
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Subject: Re: [IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
Thanks for sharing the process with me all. Good to get a sense of this to
think about how we all might move forward together.
all the best,
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
wrote:
Dear Steve
To follow on from Dixie and in answer to your questions; the consultation
process (or 'collabowriting') also took place online through this listserv
mainly.
There have also been many face-to-face consultations around the initial
drafts; at the IGF in Vilnius, EuroDIG meetings, and IGF open consultations.
Various sorts of web-based resources were also used for the ongoing drafts
(e.g. Googledocs) and archiving.
The Coalition website needs some TLC though after it was hacked. Anyone
willing to volunteer their expertise to this task?!
best
MF
On 10/07/2012 02:28, Steve Anderson wrote:
Thanks Dixie, great to hear more about this - sounds like a lot of work was
put into this process! Does anyone know if there was an online public
consultation process? And if so where I could see it?
Thanks to all who have been a part of this.
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Dixie Hawtin <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk>
wrote:
Hi again,
It's been brought to my attention that I may have underplayed the level of
discussion about the 10 IRPs - the Charter is the result of an extremely
broad consultation process (spanning years) both online and offline, with
input from different stakeholder groups and in different parts of the world.
The 10 IRPs too were shared widely outside of the Coalition, particularly
with experts on each of the principles - for example the privacy article was
shared with many privacy experts and there were several consultation with
different communities. The huge discussions were both valuable for making
the Charter so extensive and the 10 IRPs so precise - they were also
extremely valuable in themselves for bringing together different
communities!
Very best,
Dixie
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From: Dixie Hawtin
Sent: 09 July 2012 16:07
To: Steve Anderson; Marianne Franklin
Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
Subject: RE: [IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
Hi Steve and welcome to the list!
There isn?t a formal methodology (although if any of our academic members
have written an overview please do share!)
The 10 IRPs came directly out of the Charter (A very broad overview ?
including previous versions ? can be found here:
http://irpcharter.org/charter/)
Version 1.0 of the Charter was launched at the 2010 IGF in Lithuania. During
discussions a number of Coalition members felt that we needed a shorter
?punchier? advocacy document. A working group was formed within the
Coalition of: Karmen Turk, Brett Solomon, Shaila Mistry, Henrik Almstrom,
Carlos Affonso, Jochai Ben-Avie, Lisa Horner and me. We worked over email to
distil the Charter down to 10 key principles. This was then shared with the
wider Coalition and we had an email discussion on the principles and
incorporated various changes. The 10 Internet Rights and Principles were
launched at the second expert meeting on "Freedom of Expression and the
Internet" in Stockholm, convened on 30-31 March 2011 by the Swedish Ministry
for Foreign Affairs. Then many volunteers from around the world came forward
and translated these into 21 more languages (all of which can be found here:
http://irpcharter.org/campaign/)
Best,
Dixie
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Subject: Re: [IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
Hi all, new to the list. Can someone tell me or point to me to where I can
find the methodology for developing the IRP ten principles? Curious about
how these were developed.
best,
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
wrote:
Dear All
Thought I'd respond to some recent posts.
1) Declarations; I take Jeremy's point, and Wolfganga's. The mushrooming of
declarations, charters and the like is perhaps a sign of some critical mass
building.
That said, the Declaration of Internet Freedom;
http://www.internetdeclaration.org/freedom, boils the IRP Ten Punchy
Principles, which already brought the original 3-tier Charter down to 10,
down to 5 points. At this rate we could well see the IRP Charter or
something similar fitting into a tweet!
The IRP DC has yet to sign up to this Declaration. I move that we join it as
I can see no reason why not.
2) As for the IRP website. I hope we can resolve this as having a defunct
website is not good for business so to speak.
3) Re. Max's initiative. I have read and responded for my part!
best
MF
On 04/07/2012 04:13, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
On 03/07/12 20:46, Benedek, Wolfgang (wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at) wrote:
What I wanted to point out as well is that we already have two more
declarations under this name, the Geneva Declaration on Internet Freedom of
2010 by a group of NGOs
Do you have a link for that? I found http://www.genevasummit.org/media/20,
but it is dead, nor is it on archive.org.
and the Guiding Principles of Internet Freedom of 2012 by Praxis think tank
of Estonia, which are both more elaborate.
Thanks, I added this to the links page at http://igcaucus.org/links and
added years. Am I still missing any? Feel free to add this list to the IRP
site too, or better, link to the IGC's copy. BTW, does everyone know that
the IRP's main website is down (but the charter site is up)? Not sure about
the mailing list, but I'm cc'ing to it in case it is up.
It would be good to bring all these initiatives together and the DC on
Internet Rights and Principles would be a suitable place for doing so.
Unfortunately, people seem prefer to work in parallel which might limit the
effects of such efforts.
Indeed. Part of the problem is that whereas there are strong global action
networks on issues like IP and the environment, in IG we have only the IGC,
and it is invisible to (or at least ignored by) large parts of the Internet
activist community.
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