[IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
Katitza Rodriguez
katitza
Tue Jul 10 05:14:50 EEST 2012
Hola Steve,
Nice to see you on this list. : )
The process was held in several lists and online communities in a very
messy way as civil society groups from around the world ended up working
towards this common work. The IRP principles was based upon a previous
work done by APC, an international network of NGOS mostly from
developing countries. The drafting of the text last several years
(Dixie: how many years?). There were several fights among coalition
(and non coalition) members, and take a lot of time to be able to get to
know each other as to understand all the different agendas and
substantive opinions of each of the participants. In addition, there
were several discussion in situ at several annual UN Internet Governace
Forum meetings as well as regional IG meetings like EURodig or others
national venues.
For instance, Lisa Horner share with me and several NGOs the privacy
principle, including CIPPIC (Canada) or EDRI.org or Privacy
International, EPIC (I was working for them at that moment), EFF.org or
Australia Privacy Foundation to name a few. There were several
discussions on the wording, as she moved forward the debates in several
online places (mainly this list).
I know there were tons of consultations and the process took a lot of
time, but I believe others can explain better the process!
Best, K
On 7/9/12 6:28 PM, Steve Anderson wrote:
> Thanks Dixie, great to hear more about this - sounds like a lot of
> work was put into this process! Does anyone know if there was an
> online public consultation process? And if so where I could see it?
>
> Thanks to all who have been a part of this.
>
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> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Dixie Hawtin
> <Dixie at global-partners.co.uk <mailto:Dixie at global-partners.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi again,
> It's been brought to my attention that I may have underplayed the
> level of discussion about the 10 IRPs - the Charter is the result
> of an extremely broad consultation process (spanning years) both
> online and offline, with input from different stakeholder groups
> and in different parts of the world. The 10 IRPs too were shared
> widely outside of the Coalition, particularly with experts on each
> of the principles - for example the privacy article was shared
> with many privacy experts and there were several consultation with
> different communities. The huge discussions were both valuable for
> making the Charter so extensive and the 10 IRPs so precise - they
> were also extremely valuable in themselves for bringing together
> different communities!
> Very best,
> Dixie
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Dixie Hawtin
> *Sent:* 09 July 2012 16:07
> *To:* Steve Anderson; Marianne Franklin
> *Cc:* irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> <mailto:irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
>
> Hi Steve and welcome to the list!
>
> There isn't a formal methodology (although if any of our academic
> members have written an overview please do share!)
>
> The 10 IRPs came directly out of the Charter (A very broad
> overview -- including previous versions -- can be found here:
> http://irpcharter.org/charter/)
>
> Version 1.0 of the Charter was launched at the 2010 IGF in
> Lithuania. During discussions a number of Coalition members felt
> that we needed a shorter "punchier" advocacy document. A working
> group was formed within the Coalition of: Karmen Turk, Brett
> Solomon, Shaila Mistry, Henrik Almstrom, Carlos Affonso, Jochai
> Ben-Avie, Lisa Horner and me. We worked over email to distil the
> Charter down to 10 key principles. This was then shared with the
> wider Coalition and we had an email discussion on the principles
> and incorporated various changes. The 10 Internet Rights and
> Principles were launched at the second expert meeting on "Freedom
> of Expression and the Internet" in Stockholm, convened on 30-31
> March 2011 by the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs. Then many
> volunteers from around the world came forward and translated these
> into 21 more languages (all of which can be found here:
> http://irpcharter.org/campaign/)
>
> Best,
>
> Dixie
>
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> Behalf Of *Steve Anderson
> *Sent:* 09 July 2012 12:29
> *To:* Marianne Franklin
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> <mailto:irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [IRP] [governance] Declaration of Internet Freedom
>
> Hi all, new to the list. Can someone tell me or point to me to
> where I can find the methodology for developing the IRP ten
> principles? Curious about how these were developed.
>
> best,
>
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> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Marianne Franklin
> <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk <mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> Thought I'd respond to some recent posts.
>
> 1) Declarations; I take Jeremy's point, and Wolfganga's. The
> mushrooming of declarations, charters and the like is perhaps a
> sign of some critical mass building.
>
> That said, the Declaration of Internet Freedom;
> http://www.internetdeclaration.org/freedom, boils the IRP Ten
> Punchy Principles, which already brought the original 3-tier
> Charter down to 10, down to 5 points. At this rate we could well
> see the IRP Charter or something similar fitting into a tweet!
>
> The IRP DC has yet to sign up to this Declaration. I move that we
> join it as I can see no reason why not.
>
> 2) As for the IRP website. I hope we can resolve this as having a
> defunct website is not good for business so to speak.
>
> 3) Re. Max's initiative. I have read and responded for my part!
>
> best
> MF
>
> On 04/07/2012 04:13, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
> On 03/07/12 20:46, Benedek, Wolfgang (wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at
> <mailto:wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at>) wrote:
>
> What I wanted to point out as well is that we already have two
> more declarations under this name, the Geneva Declaration on
> Internet Freedom of 2010 by a group of NGOs
>
>
> Do you have a link for that? I found
> http://www.genevasummit.org/media/20
> <http://www.genevasummit.org/media/20>, but it is dead, nor is it
> on archive.org <http://archive.org>.
>
>
> and the Guiding Principles of Internet Freedom of 2012 by Praxis
> think tank of Estonia, which are both more elaborate.
>
>
> Thanks, I added this to the links page at
> http://igcaucus.org/links <http://igcaucus.org/links> and added
> years. Am I still missing any? Feel free to add this list to the
> IRP site too, or better, link to the IGC's copy. BTW, does
> everyone know that the IRP's main website is down (but the charter
> site is up)? Not sure about the mailing list, but I'm cc'ing to
> it in case it is up.
>
>
> It would be good to bring all these initiatives together and the
> DC on Internet Rights and Principles would be a suitable place for
> doing so.
>
> Unfortunately, people seem prefer to work in parallel which might
> limit the effects of such efforts.
>
>
> Indeed. Part of the problem is that whereas there are strong
> global action networks on issues like IP and the environment, in
> IG we have only the IGC, and it is invisible to (or at least
> ignored by) large parts of the Internet activist community.
>
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