[IRP] Fwd: Re: Call for support - Brazilian civil rights framework in Congress

Wed Aug 8 12:09:48 EEST 2012

+ 1 and other members and Law professor from Cyberlaw Clinic (Spain)
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2012/8/7 Bodle, Robert <Robert_Bodle at mail.msj.edu>

> +1!
>
> -robert
>
>
> Robert Bodle, PhD
> Associate Professor of Communication and New Media Studies
> College of Mount St. Joseph
> http://robertbodle.org/
> ________________________________________
> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org [
> irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of Lee W
> McKnight [lmcknigh at syr.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:43 AM
> To: parminder; irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> Subject: Re: [IRP] Fwd: Re: Call for support - Brazilian civil rights
> framework in Congress
>
> I also agree we should support.
>
> Lee
> ________________________________
> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org [
> irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] on behalf of parminder
> [parminder at itforchange.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 6:40 AM
> To: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> Subject: [IRP] Fwd: Re: Call for support - Brazilian civil rights
> framework in Congress
>
>
>
> i support IRP endorsing Brazilian Marco Civil - process and substance. A
> truly remarkable and outstanding achievement..
>
> Although I agree it may yet have to go through fine tuning for instance
> with regard to some valid issues raised by Marcelo.
>
> parminder
>
> On Tuesday 07 August 2012 03:23 PM, Dixie Hawtin wrote:
> Hi all ?
>
> Re: signing on to the Internet Freedom Declaration ? so far there has been
> unanimous support for signing on to the Declaration (although with some
> reservations about the process and content of that Declaration ?
> nonetheless the consensus appears to be that it is an important initiative
> to join and support). I?ll keep that call open until tomorrow so if anyone
> else wants to throw your opinion in, do so now, otherwise we will sign on
> tomorrow!
>
> Re: Marco Civil ? from my perspective too this has been a truly remarkable
> initiative and a very inspiring example of how the democratic process can
> work in the internet era. Notwithstanding the important points made by
> Marcelo, this is another important flagship initiative that we could really
> support if we can move quickly (given that the vote is coming to the
> National Congress tomorrow!) If you would like the IRP to sign on please
> respond and say so in the next 5 hours (by 4pm BST) and if there is rough
> consensus I will let CTS-FGV know.
>
> Thanks!
> Dixie
>
> From: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org<mailto:
> irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org> [mailto:
> irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo
> Thompson
> Sent: 07 August 2012 10:21
> To: Marilia Maciel
> Cc: igcbp-talk at googlegroups.com<mailto:igcbp-talk at googlegroups.com>; irp;
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: Re: [IRP] Call for support - Brazilian civil rights framework in
> Congress
>
> Dear All,
>
> As a Brazilian, I could not be prouder of what my colleagues have
> accomplished. If you have not heard of Marco Civil by now (what I trust is
> highly unlikely), the first thing you may like to learn is that Marco Civil
> is the outcome of a truly democratic process, be it in terms of the wealth
> of good intentions reflected in it, be it in terms of the range of social
> actors that have been able not only to contribute to the final text, which
> is common, but to be heard, which is rare indeed.
>
> If I may, I would strongly endorse the plea of my friends from the CTS-FGV
> in asking the international community to support Marco Civil.
>
> At the same time, however, I would also like to bring to your attention
> what I trust to be quite an ink of stain in an otherwise excellent
> initiative. The intermediary liability provision, which is explained in the
> attachment to be a lucid and balanced set of provisions, may be rather far
> from being so. I briefly explain its problems here<
> https://bitly.com/O6YLdp>. What the provision may see as lucid is the
> evasion of more in-depth inquiry of the kind the EU is conducting now in
> its consultation on intermediary liability.
>
> The way Marco Civil does so is by simply stating that there is no such a
> thing as intermediary liability -- except for contempt of court. Whether
> this is a lucid and balanced solution to such a central problem of
> contemporary life, I leave up to colleagues to decide. What I dare say, and
> have argued elsewhere<http://ssrn.com/abstract=2101322>, is that, in all
> its breadth, this is something internationally unprecedented, which
> violates the Brazilian Constitution and Brazil's human rights obligations,
> and which will have immediate and pervasive impacts upon Brazilian society,
> if not upon the international community altogether.
>
> As the beauty of this process is precisely that it is such an open
> consultation, I am sure colleagues in Brazil will wholeheartedly welcome
> any views the international community may have on this issue, which is not
> any side issue, but one which is central indeed to Marco Civil's reading of
> the boundaries of freedom of expression and its relation with other human
> rights.
>
> Other than that, I wish my colleagues -- and myself! -- every luck
> tomorrow.
>
> All best wishes,
>
> Marcelo
>
>
> --
> Marcelo Thompson
>
> Research / Assistant Professor
> Deputy Director, LLM (IT&IP)
>
> Faculty of Law
> The University of Hong Kong
>
> http://marcelothompson.hk
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com
> <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On behalf of Joana Varon, from CTS-FGV
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Please find attached a letter of support for the Civil Rights Framework
> for Internet in Brazil, drafted in partnership with the following Brazilian
> civil society organizations: Institute of Consumers Defense - IDEC;
> Intervozes and the Center for Technology and Society - CTS/FGV, but with
> growing support from a list of others.
>
> Next Wednesday, August 8th, the bill shall be voted at a Special Committee
> of National Congress. It would be the first step in the creation of a legal
> text that goes in the opposite direction to the trend of criminalization
> and imposing intermediary liability on the web. As you might already know,
> we had expected it to be voted a month ago, but it did not happen due to
> lack of quorum. And nowadays, though it is the product of a highly
> democratic process, approval of the text is not guaranteed.
>
> We believe international support can help us put pressure on Congress for
> approval. So, if you agree, I would kindly ask your institution to sign
> this letter. Sorry for not having being able to propose it as a document to
> be edited in partnership, but we are in a rush, as the idea is to have a
> version with institutional signatures of international civil society
> organizations by tomorrow to deliver it to the Special Commission on
> Wednesday. Signatures can be sent directly to my email (
> joana at varonferraz.com<mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>), preferably
> indicating the link to the website of the supporting institution.
>
> ps. sorry for any eventual cross-posting
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joana
>
> --
>
> Joana Varon Ferraz
> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)
> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/goog_946507056>www.freenetfilm.org<
> http://www.freenetfilm.org>
> @joana_varon
>
>
>
>
> --
> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade
> FGV Direito Rio
>
> Center for Technology and Society
> Getulio Vargas Foundation
> Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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