[IRP] RES: Workshop proposal on Internet Governance Principles

Sun Apr 24 23:49:59 EEST 2011

Hi Katitza:

Thanks for voicing your concerns. We've had some opportunities to
discuss that in recent events and your input on data retention has
been valuable through out the whole Marco Civil process.

I would argue that to bring the Marco Civil along to a discussion over
internet principles is very important for at least three main reasons:

(i) it features an unique and successful public online participation process;

(ii) a number of provisions of the Marco Civil actually came out with
a good wording for key aspects of the whole debate over human rights
and internet, such as the one that states that internet access is a
fundamental right, as well as the ones dealing with intermediary
liability, net neutrality and access to governmental data.

(iii) and last, but not least, it is always good to tell the story of
how difficult it can be to balance the protection of human rights with
the usual pressure to include provisions that addresses some security
concerns and what law enforcement agents (and governments) are
requiring to change in national law in the light of the international
framework.

If our workshop proposal is approved it would be great to take this
opportunity not only to match the stories and contents of all charters
and documents that have been released lately, but also to identify
usual topics of pressure and lobby that may hinder the effectiveness
of some of the provisions dealing, for instance, with privacy and
right of access.

Best,
Carlos

-----Mensagem original-----
De: irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org em nome de katitza at datos-personales.org
Enviada: s?b 23/4/2011 23:27
Para: Marilia Maciel
Cc: irp
Assunto: Re: [IRP] Workshop proposal on Internet Governance Principles

Hi there,

I have concerns about promoting the  "Marco Civil". While it has a lot of
good provisions and a have pass through a wonderful participatory 
process, it also incorporate a mandatory data retention provision that
many from civil society has strong concerns. We should be careful that
government officials s will not end up mirroring the bad provisions
(instead of the good ones).

I am sharing with you my real concerns as you know but since I am seeing
everywhere the promotion of the framework, I feel obligated to share my
concerns with it.

A big hug, Katitza

> Sending of behalf of Carlos Affonso. His e-mails are bouncing.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Carlos Affonso Pereira de Souza <caffsouza at gmail.com>
> Date: 2011/4/21
> Subject: Workshop proposal on Internet Governance Principles
> To: irp <Irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
>
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> I know it is sort of a late call, but we (Center for Technology and
> Society - CTS/FGV) have been considering the proposal of a workshop
> for the next IGF to discuss the several documents on internet
> governance principles that have been around recently. Of course the
> IRP would play a relevant role on that debate as we have the Charter
> and the 10 Principles to report on.
>
> The general idea of this workshop is to compare those documents and to
> get people to debate procedural and substantive issues that such
> initiatives have faced. Another goal is to have a session that could
> frame the multistakeholderism debate as a debate over principles for
> internet governance.
>
> Any suggestion is more than welcome. We are open to any comments on
> the substance and the panelists that could be involved to foster the
> debate.
>
> Best,
> Carlos
>
>
>
> Internet Governance Principles: different initiatives toward the
> improvement of a global internet governance
>
> The establishment of principles that should govern and enlight future
> regulation of key aspects of the Internet are at the core of the
> debate over Internet Governace. In a multistakeholder approach (being
> multistakeholderism itself a fundamental internet governance
> principle), a number of initiatives have been launched in recent years
> as to debate and frame charters, bills and recommendations.
>
> What are the similarities of such initiatives and how a better
> understanding of such enterprises could lead us to a more
> participative, transparent and effective internet governance? The
> workshop will focus on the challenges that such initiatives have
> faced, from organizational issues (such as diverse representation,
> ways to take stock of different perspectives and to reach agreement)
> to content issues (such as the preponderancy of some principles and
> which ones are the most contingent ones).
>
> The workshop would tentatively gather for discussion representatives
> of (i) IGF's Internet Rights and Principles Dynamic Coalition ("10
> Principles for Internet Governance"); (ii) Council of Europe Ad Hoc
> Advisory Group on Cross-border Internet ("Draft Declaration on
> Internet Governance Principles"); (iii) Brazilian Government ("Marco
> Civil da Internet"); (iv) CGI.br ("Principles for the government and
> use of Internet"); and (v) APC ("Code of Good Practice on Information,
> Participation and Transparency on Internet Governance").
>
> Organization:
>
> Center for Technology and Society (CTS/FGV) at Getulio Vargas Foundation
> Carlos Affonso Pereira de Souza, Marilia Maciel and Joana Varon
>
>
>
>
>
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