[IRP] FW: Draft Internet Charter Rev. 31082010

[Henrik Almström]

Hi,

Sorry, just went roght on reading the draft and missed the invitation to
the conference call. 

I'll be there on Tuesday!

/Henrik

On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 11:02 +0100, Lisa Horner wrote:
> Hi all
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> I?m not sure this email that I sent on Wednesday went through ok.  I?m
> re-sending now.  Please could you let me know if you can make the call
> on Tuesday?
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> Many thanks,
> 
> Lisa
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> From: Lisa Horner 
> Sent: 01 September 2010 18:03
> To: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
> Cc: irp-charter at rp.lip6.fr
> Subject: FW: Draft Internet Charter Rev. 31082010
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> Dear all
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> Please find attached a version of the Charter in which Wolfgang has
> attempted to incorporate as many of the comments as he could.  Please
> also see his email below for your information.  Thanks to Wolfgang for
> his work.
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> Please have a look through.  If you feel that there are still
> outstanding, burning issues that need to be addressed in the Charter
> before Vilnius, please let us know asap...at least by next Monday 6th
> September.  Otherwise, I suggest that you flag them up as points for
> discussion in Vilnius and beyond.
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> In response to Shaila?s comment about sections needing more work, I
> fully agree.  However, I also agree with Wolfgang that we have to move
> ahead and present this draft more or less as it is as we?re now out of
> time.  But if others have strong opinions on this, please do voice
> them and we can all discuss.  
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> I am really keen to work out a process that will allow people to feel
> that we?ve done enough thinking on different sections of the Charter,
> reached out to the right expert groups and included the right
> communities in the process.  The main ingredients we need for that are
> people-power, funding and time!  I?d like to propose that we have An
> informal coalition business meeting in Vilnius to discuss these
> process issues (rather than Charter), both relating to the Charter and
> to the wider development and activities of the coalition.  In
> particular, we need to consider possibilities for raising funds for
> the process.  Would the lunch break on the first day suit people?
> It?d be good to have it before our official public meeting on the
> second day. 
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> Finally, it would be good to organise a conference call for the
> coalition NEXT TUESDAY 7th SEPTEMBER at 15.00 UK / 16.00 CEST to
> discuss any outstanding issues and discuss how we want to present the
> Charter during our workshop, including identifying points for
> discussion. Please try and make it if you can, or let me know if you?d
> like to propose an alternative time.
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> Thanks and all the best,
> 
> Lisa
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> From: Benedek, Wolfgang (wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at)
> [mailto:wolfgang.benedek at uni-graz.at] 
> Sent: 31 August 2010 14:57
> To: Lisa Horner
> Subject: Draft Internet Charter Rev. 31082010
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> Dear Lisa,
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> please find enclosed the Charter as revised in the light of the
> comments received. 
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> Not all comments could be taken into account, either because of
> different views expressed or because it did not appear for me possible
> to incorporate the recommendations at this stage. 
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> In particular, based on the comments and beyond I would have a few
> discussions points for Vilnius, as, in particular:
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>      1. Name issue: should we call it the Charter for the Internet or
>         Digital Communications? 
>      2. How to better take mobile access to the internet into account?
>      3. Should we make reference to the work of regional human rights
>         institutions and how to incorporate that work without
>         jeopardizing the universality of the Charter?
>      4. Can we agree on a new human right to access?
>      5. In which way should we refer to the Millennium development
>         goals, if at all?
>      6. How to deal with the issue of anonymity?
>      7. Who is the ?owner? of the Charter?
>      8. Should we incorporate additional rights like freedom from
>         slavery in the context of human trafficking and freedom of
>         thought and conscience as well as religion on the internet
>         acc. To Arts. 4 and 18 UDHR respectively.
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> Another issue would be whether and to what extend we put references or
> preferably to leave these to a commentary to be developed anyway.
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> I also see a lot of work to do in order to fully incorporate other
> initiatives like the Brasilian principles for the governance and use
> of the internet ( I started) and forth-coming legislation. Here it
> would be good if somebody from Brazil would read the Charter in order
> to see whether the ten principles are covered or if there is need to
> additions to take them more fully into account if they can be
> universally applied, which is not the case for all principles. I also
> see a lot of work to be done to check whether standards elaborated by
> the Council of Europe or UNESCO or interpretations developed by the
> Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of the Rights to
> Freedom of Opinion and Expression together with his regional fellow
> rapporteurs like the 10th Anniversary Joint Declaration on ?Ten key
> challenges to freedom of expression and the next decade? can be taken
> into account in our interpretation of rights and principles for the
> universal level. 
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> I would also suggest that we produce a text which is free from
> footnotes and references to the different sources, because in the
> meantime and in particular with the comments included, not all sources
> can be adequately identified and contributions recognized and the
> readability of the Charter may suffer or misunderstandings may be
> created. However, we should keep a version with sources and references
> for those who are interested to look into it. 
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> Let me thank you once again for the very useful collation of comments
> which help me a lot in doing the revision. I would also have no
> problem if the coalition can have a final look before presented in
> Vilnius, but there should be a short deadline in order to be able to
> finalize the draft for Vilnius. 
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> With regard to Vilnius, I think we should present the full draft maybe
> in an easy to read version, i.e. copied two pages on one and
> identified as a 1.0 draft with comments on the procedure so far and
> the envisaged way forward.
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> With kind regards,
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> Wolfgang 
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> PS: If you want to know more about my reasons, why I made certain
> changes based on the comments received, best would be to talk on the
> phone. 
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> PPS: I just realized that 19d on effective participation on internet
> governance cannot remain like this as a reference to full and
> effective participation of developing countries does not fit into a
> human rights charter. We could inspire ourselves from the principles
> of the governance and use of the internet elaborated by the Internet
> Committee of Brazil and I have taken some language from there in
> making the changes. Taking the Brazil principles into account I have
> also added religious in net neutrality and another paragraph in fair
> trial, which could also get a headline later. 
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> Univ.-Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Benedek
> 
> Institut f?r V?lkerrecht und Internationale Beziehungen 
> 
> Karl-Franzens-Universit?t Graz
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> Universit?tsstra?e 15, A4
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> A-8010 Graz
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> Tel.: +43/316/380/3411
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> Fax: +43/316/380/9455
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