[IRP] Punchiness and consultation process

[Lisa Horner]

Hi Fouad

Do you mean the actual Charter?  The Google links for that are out of date, but you can see it on our website at: http://internetrightsandprinciples.org/node/367

We could do with tidying up the format on this or - even better - creating an eye catching online version. Any volunteers?

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Fouad Bajwa [mailto:fouadbajwa at gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2010 00:46
To: Lisa Horner
Cc: irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
Subject: Re: [IRP] Punchiness and consultation process

Hi Lisa,

Can you share the google link to the irp document?

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Lisa Horner
<LisaH at global-partners.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
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>
>
> Two things I wanted to raise in this email:
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> 1)????? Whether 1.1 should have more punch
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> 2)????? A proposal for the consultation process once we have 1.1
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> 1)????? Whether 1.1 should have more punch
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> It is great that the punchy comments are coming through - thanks everyone!
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> We did agree in Vilnius that we'd just address serious concerns for version
> 1.1 (mistakes, misleading language, contradictions).? The main rationale for
> that was so that we could move forwards as quickly as possible with the
> consultation, and also so that people don't get confused/disinterested in
> the process if we release a lot of different versions.? The idea wasn't to
> stop inputs on substantive issues, but rather to get as quickly as possible
> to a point at which we're all happy to begin that discussion.
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>
>
> But I agree with the comment that we should ride on this punchy wave!? And I
> think more punch in the Charter would definitely be a good thing.? However,
> it would also be good to stick as much as possible to our original time
> scale of the end of October to get version 1.1 out and start the
> consultation and outreach on substantive issues.
>
>
>
> So, could I suggest something between the two solutions:
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> -????????? People on this list make comments and suggestions on (a)
> "serious" issues [mistakes etc] and (b) "punchy" improvements that could be
> made to the existing text for specific articles.? We could extend the
> deadline for comments and discussion by a week until 17th October.
>
> -????????? Dixie revises the text, taking as many of the suggestions into
> consideration as possible.? She sends the coalition the revised document by
> 27th October, with clear explanation/rationale for changes.
>
> -????????? Coalition has chance to comment again until Sunday 7th November.
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> -????????? Version 1.1 is ready for Monday 15th November.
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> Just to stress, changes being made during this process would only be to
> language and grammar. ?I recognise that small changes in language can have a
> powerful impact...this isn't an apolitical exercise.? But following on from
> our discussions in Vilnius, I really don't think that we should jump the gun
> too much in terms of making too many substantive changes at this stage.? For
> example, I don't think we should be adding in new articles, taking any out
> or changing the spirit and intention of the text.? That's all for the
> consultation process (which of course has already informally started on this
> list, which is great).
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>
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> What do you think?
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> 2)????? A proposal for the consultation process once we have 1.1
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>
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> Dixie and I have drafted a proposal for moving forwards, based on the
> coalition discussions we had in Vilnius.? This is just a draft proposal...we
> need your comments, thoughts and ideas about how this should work.? The
> proposal is here: http://internetrightsandprinciples.org/node/368
>
>
>
> Please send through your comments, questions and ideas.? I've put some
> specific questions in red italics in the doc, but you can of course comment
> on anything.? I suggest we then have a conference call to finalise in the
> next few weeks, but let's discuss on the list first.? The success of this
> process will depend on all of our participation, so please do comment.
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>
>
> Thanks and all the best,
>
> Lisa
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Fouad Bajwa

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