[IRP] [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration

Sat Nov 7 08:34:17 EET 2009

I would really like these groups that demand open and transparent deliberations to be a bit more open and transparent about themselves.

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204 at yahoo.com>, "governance at lists.cpsr.orgGovernance IGC" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "Katitza Rodriguez" <katitza at datos-personales.org>
Cc: "irp" <Irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>, icann-board at icann.org, jeffrey at icann.org, ssene at ntia.doc.gov, rod_beckstrom at icann.org, ga at gnso.icann.org
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 1:53 PM

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Eric and all,
?
? Good point all, and I agree.? I also have a wonderment as to whom or what entities are funding
such academic adventures, as you so aptly put it.? What's interesting is to see on C-Span
just yesterday on the renewal of the Patriot act especially language under artical 215 which
was amended in markup via amendment to water down government intrusion, yet also to see
that with ACTA, more specific provisions that were leaked by Michael Giest seemingly to
have the opposite intent and effect.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Hugh Dierker 
Sent: Nov 6, 2009 12:34 AM 
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Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration 

Jeff,
?
In reading this through it looked a little like some pandering was going on.? I really did not see any victim statement or passion in the argument against increased making public that which should be private.? Seems like this should be coming from practical losers in the violations of privacy.? This looks more like a philosopher ruler hypothetical decree of morality. So I am wondering who funds such academic adventures.

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Katitza Rodriguez" <katitza at datos-personales.org>, "governance at lists.cpsr.org"Governance IGC"" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
Cc: "irp" <Irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>, icann-board at icann.org, jeffrey at icann.org, ssene at ntia.doc.gov, rod_beckstrom at icann.org, ga at gnso.icann.org
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:39 AM

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Katitza and all,
?
? This IMO is good stuff.? What worries many or our INEGroup members is that still most
of ICANN's registrars are not on board here and seem determined to remain largely
disinterested in Registrants as well as non-registrant users privacy what so ever.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Katitza Rodriguez 
Sent: Nov 4, 2009 5:18 PM 
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org 
Cc: irp 
Subject: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration 

Civil Society Groups and Privacy Experts Release Madrid Declaration, Reaffirm International Privacy Laws, Identify New Challenges and Call for Concrete Action to Safeguard Privacy

By Liason on November 3, 2009 12:49 PM | Permalink 

In a crisply worded declaration, over 100 civil society organizations and privacy experts from more than 40 countries have set out an expansive statement on the future of privacy. The Madrid Declaration affirms that privacy is a fundamental human right and reminds "all countries of their obligations to safeguard the civil rights of their citizens and residents." The Madrid Declaration warns that "privacy law and privacy institutions have failed to take full account of new surveillance practices." The Declaration urges countries "that have not yet established a comprehensive framework for privacy protection and an independent data protection authority to do so as expeditiously as possible." The civil society groups and experts recommend a "moratorium on the development or implementation of new systems of mass surveillance." Finally, the Declaration calls for the "establishment of a new international framework for privacy protection, with the full
 participation of civil society, that is based on the rule of law, respect for fundamental human rights, and support for democratic institutions." The Madrid Declaration was released at the Public Voice conference in Madrid on Global Privacy Standards. Multiple translations of the Declaration are available.
Please send your signature at privacy @ datos-personales.org?
If you want to help with some translations, pls. send an email to?privacy @ datos-personales.org?
We are recruiting signatures until January 28, International Privacy Day.
http://thepublicvoice.org/2009/11/civil-society-groups-and-privacy-expertes-release-madrid-declaration-reaffirm-international-privacy.php_______________________________________________
Madrid mailing list
Madrid at mailman.thepublicvoice.org
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Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders strong!)
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Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
?? Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing? (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.? INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Phone: 214-244-4827

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