[IRP] ICANN Mexico: teaming up for 5.5. Work on an "Individual Internet Users" declaration.

Cheryl Preston prestonc
Tue Feb 24 21:27:40 EET 2009

I would very much like to join in a conversation on this subject, including where it fits in ICANN's scope.  Is there a time in Mexico you are planning to meet?

Cheryl B. Preston
Edwin M. Thomas
Professor of Law
J. Reuben Clark Law School
Brigham Young University
434 JRCB
Provo, UT 84602
(801) 422-2312
prestonc at lawgate.byu.edu

>>> Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com> 2/24/2009 5:16 am >>>
Dear colleagues

Ginger raised the what is happening on the agenda item 5.5. Work on a
"Individual Internet Users" declaration for the upcoming ICANN meeting
(listed at

I have tried to investigate a bit further (I copy a selection of the most
informing mails below). There seems to be quite some interest in working on
such a declaration. Unfortunately i have not heard back from ICANN staff
regarding the history and planned organization of this effort; so i suggest
we self-organize a working group and start to tackle this item.

Are you interested to participate in discussing and drafting an "Individual
Internet Users" declaration?

Please feel free to extend this invitation to participate in this effort
among your friends and colleagues who might be interested work with us.

Looking forward to moving this forward!


Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>
to    governance at lists.cpsr.org,
date    Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:49 PM


In July 2008 ICANN published a series of proposed amendments to the
Registrar Accreditation Agreement -- one of those amendments was a direct
response to a concern first raised by the ALAC's Vittorio Bertola, namely
that Registrant Rights be clearly detailed in the contract.

The exact text of the amendment follows:

"In the event that ICANN gives reasonable notice to Registrar that ICANN has
published a webpage that identifies available registrant rights and
responsibilities, and the content of such webpage is developed in
consultation with registrars, Registrar shall provide a link to the webpage
on any website it may operate for domain name registration
or renewal clearly displayed to its Registered Name Holders at least as
clearly as its links to policies or notifications required to be displayed
under ICANN Consensus Policies."

Since this amendment was proposed, neither the ALAC nor any of the
proponents of this measure have acted to define such rights -- they haven't
even started.  If this rights subset hasn't been worked on at all in the
last year, I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting this Summit to yield a full
exposition of Internet User Rights.


from    Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu>
cc    irp <Irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org>
date    Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Two years ago, when I was representing the ALAC on the ICANN Board, I
insisted that registrants should be provided information on their rights
when buying a domain name, similarly to the "passenger rights" posters
that we see in every European airport.

But I've not been involved in this since I left the board in December
2007, and the point that Danny is making (I hope you know him, otherwise
you wouldn't be able to put his emails in context) is that the ALAC
never bothered to follow up on my proposal.

I heard that some people proposed to write a "declaration of internet
user rights" at the At Large Summit in Mexico, which does seem a bit
ridiculous since no preparatory work was made and AFAIK only a handful
of people are thinking at it. But you should ask the people who are
organizing the At Large Summit, I confess I'm totally out of the loop
about it.



Dr. Max Senges


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