[IRPCoalition] Flamewars Re: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Time-sensitive: 24 hour sign on period for ITU Plenipot joint recommendations

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Fri Oct 24 17:46:35 EEST 2014

I am absolutely glad to not continue a discussion on these lines. On the 
ground and reasoned policy discussions on this list get increasingly rare 
when terms like neo liberal are bandied around, a distressing repurposing 
of the word liberal and all that it stands for, but I digress..

On 24 October 2014 10:30:01 am chaals at yandex-team.ru wrote:

> Hi,
> This by now pretty unedifying discussion about the finer theoretical points 
> of different approaches to democracy seems to have outlived its usefulness 
> to this group.
> It takes a certain kind of stubbornness not to recognise that there are 
> extremely serious limitations to the capacity of a "multi-stakeholder 
> approach" to be guaranteed to represent all the people. But then, that 
> pretty much follows from Arrow's theorem, along with the fact that there 
> are equally problems any other approach.
> We could argue about whether the model chosen for this group is the right 
> one, if there were some alternative proposal. Otherwise, I'd love to see 
> discussions related to some concrete proposal related to ensuring or 
> improving the way that Internet governance supports improved Human Rights.
> (Yes, this is also what a "neo-liberal" would reply if they wanted to shut 
> down a discussion they found uncomfortable. Unfortunately, there is no a 
> priori way to determine whether my motivation is to spend my time doing 
> useful stuff, or to use any rhetorical trick available to further my hidden 
> agenda. So I'll just go with calling it like I see it).
> cheers
> --
> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
> chaals at yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
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