[IRPCoalition] IRPC Submission to the Net Mundial Meeting

[joy]

thanks for your thoughts Milton - few responses below for you
joy
On 6/03/2014 10:20 a.m., Milton L Mueller wrote:
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> *From:*irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org [mailto:irp-
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>     webpage with the right text
>     <http://internetrightsandprinciples.org/site/campaign/>)
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>     If those are the Principles being proposed, I have the following
>     comments and questions:
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>     *2) Rights and Social Justice*
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>     The Internet is a space for the promotion, protection and
>     fulfilment of human rights and the advancement of social justice.
>     Everyone has the duty to respect the human rights of all others in
>     the online environment.
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>     What is 'social justice'? How is it advanced? I honestly have no
>     idea what it means in this context.Could one add a reference to
>     international legal instruments here that explains what one means
>     by human rights?
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One could: that is just a simple footnote (but i note below you feel
these are well understood, so i guess that is not your main focus). The
concept of social justice was perhaps framed in a US context most
eloquently by Roosevelt i think as referring to: freedom from want,
freedom from fear ......
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>     *3) Accessibility*
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>     Everyone has an equal right to access and use a secure and open
>     Internet.
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>     *4) Expression and Association*
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>     Everyone has the right to seek, receive, and impart information
>     freely on the Internet without censorship or other interference.
>     Everyone also has the right to associate freely through and on the
>     Internet, for social, political, cultural or other purposes.
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>     At last, a right that bears some resemblance to well-understood
>     human rights.
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>     *5) Privacy and Data Protection*
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>     Everyone has the right to privacy online. This includes freedom
>     from surveillance, the right to use encryption, and the right to
>     online anonymity. Everyone also has the right to data protection,
>     including control over personal data collection, retention,
>     processing, disposal and disclosure.
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>     Ditto the above
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>     *6) Life, Liberty and Security*
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>     The rights to life, liberty, and security must be respected,
>     protected and fulfilled online. These rights must not be infringed
>     upon, or used to infringe other rights, in the online environment.
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>     I like this, but doesn't it overlap a bit with #1 and #2, and
>     isn't it clearly better than #2 because it avoids undefined and
>     divisive language about social justice?
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.... you'll find this in the same documents that reference the concepts
in 1-5: the universal declaration of human rights. I sense a
philosphical objection to "social justice" :)
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>     *7) Diversity*
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>     Cultural and linguistic diversity on the Internet must be
>     promoted, and technical and policy innovation should be encouraged
>     to facilitate plurality of expression.
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>     *8) Network Equality*
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>     Everyone shall have universal and open access to the Internet's
>     content, free from discriminatory prioritisation, filtering or
>     traffic control on commercial, political or other grounds.
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>     This one is garbled, and it overreaches, and thereby sets itself
>     up for rejection. It is not about "network equality" it is either
>     about network neutrality or the right of network users to be
>     treated equally (except that no one really wants to treat all
>     network users equally). Not all content on the internet is open,
>     some of it you have to pay for and some of it is shielded because
>     you don't have authorization to access it (e.g., my bank account).
>     Is that a violation of this principle? What is "the Internet's
>     content"? "Discriminatory prioritization...on commercial,
>     political or *other* grounds" might be interpreted to mean that
>     network operators or end users could not discriminate against
>     traffic tagged as spam, malware or viruses.
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>     *9) Standards and Regulation*
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>     The Internet's architecture, communication systems, and document
>     and data formats shall be based on open standards that ensure
>     complete interoperability, inclusion and equal opportunity for all.
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>     "Complete interoperability" tips me off that whoever wrote this
>     hasn't worked with standards and standardization much. Are you
>     saying that innovative protocols or services that don't always
>     work well with others are to be banned? How about IPv6, for example?
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>     *10) Governance*
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>     Human rights and social justice must form the legal and normative
>     foundations upon which the Internet operates and is governed. This
>     shall happen in a transparent and multilateral manner, based on
>     principles of openness, inclusive participation and accountability.
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>     What a mess. I simply don't believe that this principle,
>     especially the invocation of "multilateral" governance, has
>     widespread consensus. I still don't know what social justice
>     means, but I do know how some people use the term as a code word
>     for coercive redistributions of wealth.
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Ah - again, I sense a philosophical objection to social justice - well
that is your prerogative of course.
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