[IRPCoalition] [bestbits] Nnenna to Keynote at Netmundial - Civil Society major issues

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Apr 17 05:19:18 EEST 2014

On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:47 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
> snip
>> And it is not just these two governments. President Rousseff in her famed UN speech has directly linked the privacy issue to     democracy... To quote
>> "In the absence of the right to privacy, there can be no true freedom of expression and opinion, and therefore no effective democracy. "
> looks to me you have picked up something very important in that quote.  How about making a comment on paragraph 2, or perhaps add a preamble to paragraph 14 of principles, or paragraph 4 of roadmap?


When the EMC or whoever did not find it fit to include the term 
'democratic' even after specific and repeated recommendation of more 
than one government HLC member, do you really think I should bother 
recommending that (although you know we did send a document to you all 
before your last EMC meeting where you finalised this draft where we 
requested you to include 'democratic') ? This apart from the fact that 
there is a whole contribution by IT for Change to the open process on 
the issue which you were supposed to have read and prepared you draft 
having taken it into account. Please see the contribution "Is certain 
kind of multistakeholderism a post-democratic ideology? - Need to save 
NetMundial outcome documents from crossing some sacred democratic lines 

You will perhaps appreciate our crystal-gazing skills. Why is the 
NetMundial behaving exactly as per our worst fears? The answer; it is, 
was always, structural to how this event was systematically captured by 
status-quo-ist, and its Brazilian leadership, which is where most people 
initially posed their trust, has been long displaced.

Maybe, you can explain the compulsions of not putting 'democratic' in 
the description of Internet governance mechanisms, when multistakeholder 
is mentioned about 500 times.... And please dont behave as if it simply 
did not occur to you/EMC, which while being surprising on its own, is 
unsustainable as per the above.

BTW, for the sake of transparency, can we please be informed who 
prepared the final draft - the EMC or the meeting board (with its civil 
society co-chair who is really not civil society 


> Thanks,
> Adam (in my individual capacity)
>> But strangely, Brazilians seem to have handed over this meeting to the staus quoists...  and democracy is simply not a favoured word with them..
>> Welcome to the brave new post-democratic world... the NetMundial doc as it stands is positioned to become a key milestone, even a trail blazer, towards a post-democratic global governance, from where it will trickle down to national levels. The neoliberal ideology is making really big strides and rapid gains....
>> parminder
>>> BTW, India in its comments on the document (as per the leaked documents) seem to have also asked for a recognition of the Internet as a global commons... but of course no... what are you talking about!
>>> What are you asking the people of the world to do with this document... To endorse it and celebrate it just becuase in about 500 places it says multi-stakeholder....
>>> parminder
>>> On Tuesday 15 April 2014 05:19 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>>>> Carol, it was not "taken out" of the document. It is there, in detail,
>>>> please re-read.
>>>> --c.a.
>>>> On 04/15/2014 08:10 AM, Carolina wrote:
>>>>> Pls, mention net neutrality which was taken out of the document put out
>>>>> for comments yesterday. More later. Should we consolidate all in a pad
>>>>> to help Nnenna?
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Marianne Franklin <
>>>>> m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>> +1 from me re. Nnenna's role, and +1 from me re. Anriette's points below.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> MF
>>>>>> On 15/04/2014 19:44, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>>>>>>> Congrats Nnenna!
>>>>>>> Put on one of your fabulous outfits, and then remind them, that
>>>>>>> working inclusively and respectfully with all stakeholder groups,
>>>>>>> particularly those that lack power and influence - i.e. civil society
>>>>>>> - is very different from putting on a colourful West African outfit
>>>>>>> :) It takes hard work, change in behaviour, change in structures and
>>>>>>> procedures, consultation, respect, trust, debate, and struggle,
>>>>>>> because do not always agree. It also requires a common framework of
>>>>>>> principles that defines what the public interest is in internet
>>>>>>> governance that can be used to promote and protect this public
>>>>>>> interest across the internet governance ecosystem and it is this
>>>>>>> framework that we trust the NetMundial can get us closer to.
>>>>>>> You could also mention surveillance, with particularly - but not only
>>>>>>> - mass surveillance demonstrating how easy it is to destroy trust,
>>>>>>> and to deny accountability. And, is there any tougher test for
>>>>>>> multi-stakeholder internet governance? I think it would be good to
>>>>>>> get the message accross that the IANA transition is not the only
>>>>>>> issue that NetMundial should be discussing, but at the same time, it
>>>>>>> is a key opportunity to come up with solutions and approaches that
>>>>>>> are not simply cosmetic.
>>>>>>> Anriette
>>>>>>> On 15/04/2014 09:23, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>>> jeanette
>>>>>>>> Am 15.04.14 08:38, schrieb Ian Peter:
>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Nnenna – great choice!
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Nnenna Nwakanma
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nnenna75 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:35 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Governance
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>   ;
>>>>>>>>> mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [bestbits] Nnenna to Keynote at Netmundial - Civil Society
>>>>>>>>> major issues
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>> I got a message this morning from NetMundial Chair, Virgilo,
>>>>>>>>> inviting me
>>>>>>>>> to speak at the Opening Ceremony of Netmundial (meaning I have to pack
>>>>>>>>> one of those African dresses) for some 8 minutes.
>>>>>>>>> I have replied to say "I will be speaking from the Civil Society
>>>>>>>>> perspective, which is my Stakeholder Group".
>>>>>>>>> There is a Web Foundation media team that will help me put my ideas
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> place, but I cannot not request input from here, so that no major
>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>> will be overlooked.
>>>>>>>>> I travel Thursday evening thru Friday, so the earliest I can share a
>>>>>>>>> draft/keypoints will be Monday.
>>>>>>>>> Hope we can pull this off well.
>>>>>>>>> All for now
>>>>>>>>> Nnenna
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>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> anriette esterhuysen
>>>>>>> anriette at apc.org
>>>>>>> executive director, association for progressive communications
>>>>>>> www.apc.org
>>>>>>> po box 29755, melville 2109
>>>>>>> south africa
>>>>>>> tel/fax +27 11 726 1692
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Dr Marianne Franklin
>>>>>> Professor of Global Media and Politics
>>>>>> Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
>>>>>> Goldsmiths (University of London)
>>>>>> Department of Media & Communications
>>>>>> New Cross, London SE14 6NW
>>>>>> Tel: +44 20 7919 7072
>>>>>> <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
>>>>>> @GloComm
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/GloComm
>>>>>> http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/
>>>>>> https://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-global-media-transnational-communications/
>>>>>> Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition (UN IGF)
>>>>>> www.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>>>>>> @netrights
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